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Sam Tabar
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Kipling,

Yes, maybe look at your hands once in a while just to check on your angles. But don't stare at it for a long time. You can look at an empty space near you then pull a card from that ceratin space your looking at. Then you can look at another area and produce a fan from there. It's like having an inner dialogue in your mind that you want to convey to your audience through your moves.

Good luck and happy magic!
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The idea is that as magicians, we forget what really should be happening if we really COULD produce cards from no where. We must start by rethinking things and asking ourselves, "if I could really produce a card or vanish a card, how would it really look". With this in mind, I might actually look and spot a card in the air. I would then reach up for the card at that space and I would probably PLUCK that card into existence. This plucking action is a subtlty that some magicians do not do. What it simply means is that we see the card, we reach out for it and we pluck it into view. The hand produces the card and then slightly pulls back as the card pops into view. This very subtle action of moving the hand inward just a little bit, adds to the illusion of the card being plucked from nowhere.

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WOW Very nice. I think magic4u02 hit the nail on the head. Your moves were perfect but you need to slow down and make it look like your havig fun with it.
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Focus on the moves that make your manipulation routine special. From what I saw, it was definitely the spin/catch followed immediately by the fan production. Since this is a highlight, you definitely want to build up to it, not open with it.

Also, try to develop your routine so that your body can face left, right, and forward at various points throughout. And definitely put some sequences in there that are something besides vanishes/productions.
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Fish:

Thanks for the kind words. I think too many manipulators just get into a bad habit of doing the magic for themselves and forgetting the audience. By this I mean we become so involved in all the moves we can do and perform, that we feel we must do all of them regardless of whether or not the audience is really going to like what we are showing.

Instead of entertaining the audience, you tend to just show them skill alone and nothing more than that. There is nothing wrong with skill, but skill after a while tends to get a tad overdone and boring for an audience to watch. This is why I stress often for the manipulator to reach out and expand their own creativity.

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Hi Kyle,
Do you or others have a short video sequence of your card manipulations? I enjoy watching others card manipulations as well.
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I do have it filmed but it is not on my website or in an online format at the moment. I am filming a lot of my shows this summer to be able to work on that project in the fall and winter this year.

I do several different manip acts but my billiard ball act is one that people often request a lot simply because it is so different and vastly unique from the norm. I present it as an emotional personality piece and I get some great comments from it in my performances.

let me know and I will share some of the basic ideas with you if you would like me to.

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Wow Kyle, sounds great, I would love to see it
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Well it should be on my site by this fall along with some other clips of my stage routines. I want it there for my festival clients and will also be creating a promo DVD this winter as well. They are projects I want to get done. I was going to do it last year, but last years project was to finally get my website designed and up on the web and working. I am glad that it is finally done and that it has been working out amazingly well for my wife and I.

As far as my routine, It suprises people in the fact that I wne the opposite way with it then most magicians do. Instead of making the routine complex with killer moves and a lot of hand washing, I simplified it on purpose. I also perform it not as an act of sklill, but my billiard ball act is actually more of a personality piece that aloows the audience to see and understand who I am. It also conveys an emotional response from the audience. Hard to explain unless you really see it.

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Good job on the card manipulation. I like where you catch the card and then produce more. It is done very smoothly. I think Kyle was right on all the adjustments you should make. Kyle, you must be a very good card manipulator and I would love to see your video and get some help from you also because I am starting to do card manipulation as well.
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Kipling100 - I really liked the demo. Thanks for putting up.
I don't do any manipulation of cards so watching your skills is great.
You look good when you look at the camera and also when you a saying something offhand to someone off camera but the miracles are still happening in you hands.
I like the card spin, catch, drop and fan move.

Kyle - I enjoyed your post on routine creativity. I've taken notes and am off to think about what I do.

Thanks guys,
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Munch:
Thanks so much for the kind words. I have been doing cards for a long time and started out doing magic conventions with a card manip style act. Over a period of time, I just realized that I was going about my manips the wrong way. I was creating an act to please ME and not an act that pleased my audiences. This was a real revolation on my part. Since that time, I have really spent time studdying just how a manipulator can create a sense of wonder and give something more to their audiences while still putting on a great act. Through this process, I learned the techniques and ideas I expressed in my creativity post. I hope it was of help to you.

For anyone, please PM me etc. if I can be of help to you.

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