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luvisi Special user 601 Posts |
Sorry. I forgot some references.
"A Card in Hand" is in The Jinx, and reprinted in Annemann's Miricles of Card Magic, which is also part of the Dover book Annemann's Card Magic. "Transcendence" is in The Close Up Magician. "One Eyed Palms" is on my web site (http://www.practicenotincluded.com/). Andru
Andru Luvisi
http://www.practicenotincluded.com/ |
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lui Regular user Berlin, Germany 108 Posts |
Let me put it this way. Even the highest gimmicked card don’t make you an expert card man. You need to practice.
How do you practice to be interesting for woman? Well, fist You need become self confident an yourself in their present. A good way to practice that is to enroll in a dancing class. It don’t need to be that old style social dancing, it can be something more exotic like salsa or Argentine tango as well, just as long as it is danced as a couple and fits Your style somehow. Nevertheless this is an excellent training ground, for several reasons.
Back to your original question, any trick which can be done with things handy at that certain situation will impress people. Coins, bills, napkin matches are good, as long as the patter matches blend to the overall conversation. The raven might prove a little bit tricky. If You got her interest big time she might discover it later that evening If you are confident with the ladies, know how to move your body and can do tricks impromptu you will have reached Your goal and have no problems to entertain the girls. Then however you will get a completely different problem, how to impress your girlfriend who is annoyd by all those cards and coins around the house anyway. PS.: Docc Hilford’s Ball and Tube has some interesting thoughts on how to impress women with magic. |
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Docc Hilford V.I.P. 377 Posts |
About meeting girls and magic...
My latest book has a routine where you do a stunning little piece of mentalism, AND afterwards you put out your hand and the hottest girl at the table silently takes your hand and leaves with you! The mentalism piece is string enough to stand alone, but with the Svengali ploy, it smokes. It can used to get someone to buy your favorite cocktail if you wish, but it's so much fun! I've used it for years, not so much to meet the girl, but to freak out the men at her table. hee hee The book is Nostrum Newspaper Test and has three similar routines. The routine I mentioned is 21st Century Svengali. Cheers, Docc |
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jack_is_dead Regular user japan 173 Posts |
Hey flourishes!!flourishes might impress some girls..at least to start a conversation..hmm..just do something with a coin and you can get into conversation about your magic hobby and show her some tricks mix flourishes a little..she will be impressed..but of course like everyone has said its up to your own flirting skills end of the day....one more thing I would like to share here..i have a name card..a funky one..i made them just incase someone saw my magic and interested in hiring me. so I keep it with me all the time..so when I say good bye to the girl I have just flirted with I just hand them a card..its much easier than to ask them for their number.plus a name card is more convenient cause people hand it out all the time..its common..and if the girl is interested she will call you..if not you just knew that she is not good enough for you eh..he he..try it..a small piece of thinking at the end..i think how you dress,smell,talk, plays a great part too..you guys want to concentrate in that erea too if you are serious about girls..add a little magic and walla..magic ladies and gentlemen, magic!
warning.. never say "touch my wand".
one eyed man is the king in the blind land
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Anabelle Special user 951 Posts |
The guys I will most likely pay attention and listen to are the confident, casual, fun guys. Many guys are afraid of approaching a woman so right away I'm impressed when a guy approaches me out of nowhere with confidence. Of course the approach is important, you don't want to be creepy or aggressive, but casual. Ask an interesting question to break the ice, don't give us your name or ask us for ours right away, be mysterious, start with a story. The last time a guy approached me with magic he asked me very casually if I had ever been to India. He smiled, smiling is important. He then said that he liked it because it was a very mystical place and that he almost never meets anyone who has been there as well. So far he's confident, casual, not aggressive or pushy, and it doesn't really feel like he's trying to pick me up. He then shows me how this guy in India taught him to disappear things with his bare hands. I knew what he was doing because I'm involved with magic, but it was fun, and to make a long story short, he left with my number. So if done right, magic will certainly work. Just keep the conversation going after the magic, ask questions to spark a conversation! Be confident, casual, and have fun. Easy! *wink*
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Cory Gallupe Inner circle Nova Scotia, Canada 1272 Posts |
I had a really good looking girl go out with me once soon after I did magic to her!
It might work sometimes, but probably not alot. |
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7th_Son Elite user Australia 437 Posts |
Learn Palm Reading!
Most girls love getting their Palm read.
"Here's to our wives and girlfriends...may they never meet!" - Groucho Marx
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magician2000 New user Phoenix, Arizona 62 Posts |
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On 2005-09-28 03:32, 7th_Son wrote: Just make sure that it not in a permenant ink... oops... that was read, not red... A bit of food for thought: A good hunter will not chase his prey, but will sit and wait for it to come to them... Jazz is correct though... All men are dogs... And one of my favorite lines on the subject is from Doc Eason "Just because you are chained to the porch, doesn't mean you can't bark at the cars going by."
Dominic Marion
Sèan's Bar Athlone County Westmeath Ireland "Create a world where science and technology are celebrated... where young people dream of becoming science and technology heroes..." (Dean Kamen ) |
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John Bowlin Special user Maryland 827 Posts |
Thanks guys/gals...got some great laughs from this thread. Only conclusion one can draw from this is "people are different, thus so are their views". Thank you Anabelle for voicing a womans opinion that likes a slightly more agressive/creative approach from a man. Until you came along all of us single guys were going to burn our magic props, take up ballroom dancing and do it alone in a corner till the right woman noticed us. I love meeting and entertaining people. I grew up shy so I knew I had to do something someone else mentioned in this thread...practice..practice..practice! Social skills that is. Now when I meet people I can get a feel for them and I gear my approach, conversation, humor and magic to their personality. I have met some gorgeous geeky women that loved my geekier type magic. The bra-burner at the bar trying to match drinks, accolades and physical prowess with the men isn't likely to be enamored by your floating napkin rose...but hey..could be wrong..have been. There does seem to be a few rules that work for me pretty consistently in using bar magic with women. I never do it with the premise of picking up a woman but I do love the company of women. These I've found to be fairly failsafe in breaking the male/female barrier.
Anything you do that makes a child laugh or smile..especially her child. Anything that creates light innocent physical contact..at her option. When she helps make the magic happen. A trick that aceents a known interest of hers. Did a bill switch with a girl that involved changing her one to a $3 bill with Bill clintons face on it. She was a huge Clinton fan and I just happened to have the bill on me(no pun intended). The napkin rose after you get to know her a bit..can be cheesey otherwise. And I've found it's better to make it rise in her hand rather than float it. Too showy. Like Annabelle said..I love when the topic of a country with mysterious culture comes up..or even "THE VOODOO DOLL" in reference to new orleans. Those who know the routine can easily figure out how to work that one. If you're funny..be funny. If your serious, be mysterious. If you're geeky..uh..be mysterious. Play upon the best of what you have to offer and most of all...listen! That includes non verbal cues. When you get the idea that she's had enough magic, conversation, or magic wand jokes then politely back off. Leave them wanting more pertains to many things. On that note I think I better end my rant. |
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Jaxon Inner circle Kalamazoo, Mi. 2537 Posts |
My advice for using magic to "help" meet girls is to not present it like you are a magician. Just a guy hanging out doing a trick to, as they say, break the ice. It's a lot different then performing to be an entertainer. Your'e just being cute or funny. In other words what I call "tasteful flirting".
A few comments in this post seem mean as they where worded but in some ways they are true. For example the comment about not offering to buy a girl a drink. This to an attractive girl is sometimes a turn off because they get that all the time. You fall into "Just another average guy" status. And it's true that many of them will except the drink and just walk away leaving you with a thank you. Nothing wrong with that but if you really want to "meet her" then you really didn't. Someone else made a comment about not showing too much interest. Again, this wasn't worded very well but there's also some truth in that. Being viewed as someone who is confident in themselves and don't "need to" hit on girls is much more attractive then a guy who is obviously hitting on them. If they feel your hitting on them then they have to put that guard up like they do to all the drunks who approach them (We are talking about meeting girls in a bar here by the way). So if youn want to use magic to help meet girls then go for it. Just don't get into your "Magician" mode. One trick to show them something funny or cute is all you do. Then relax and just be yourself. Don't pressure them on you. You've broken the ice now it's time to just meet them as a person. Don't pressure them and they won't feel threatened. Am I an expert? No, But this all makes sense to me. Of course, I have a girlfriend.. LOL |
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JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11213 Posts |
Good tips from Ron. I agree with many of the points.
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Johnny Butterfield Veteran user 378 Posts |
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On 2007-09-22 14:43, Jaxon wrote: Great advixe. A cute trick to catch someone's eye is about all you can do. A trick might open the door, but you have to walk through the door on your own. You never hear a woman say "I love him because his double lift is stellar!"
The current economic crisis is due to all the coins I've vanished.
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shek Loyal user Los Angeles, CA 244 Posts |
To regurgitate what everyone else said...yes, magic can be a good icebreaker. No, you cannot "get girls" simply with a good Ambitious Card Routine. Personally, I don't feel that magic should be used as an introduction. What I mean by this is that you shouldn't introduce yourself using magic. First impressions are very important, and if you do this, people will think of you as a magician first and a person second. Not to say that magicians aren't people...but you get the idea. Presenting yourself as a magician kind of puts you on this untouchable pedestal, which can be attractive to some people, but not to others.
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PirateJohn Regular user Anaheim, CA 156 Posts |
Well, perhaps you could perform a trick in which you make her magically appear in your bedroom...
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Andy the cardician Inner circle A street named after my dad 3362 Posts |
Impress a girl with your personality, not ability.
Cards never lie
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Lumas Loyal user NYC 202 Posts |
I just thought of a bar trick. After doing a few mentalism effects, tell the girl that you have written down what you believe to be her phone number. Tell her to please say her number for the first time. Using a swami gimmick, you get her number correct and you get to call her for a date.
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Jaxon Inner circle Kalamazoo, Mi. 2537 Posts |
Well I can honestly say that I used magic to meet a girl before. Not really but here's the srory. I was performing a bar show. During the show I pointed to this girl in the audience and said, "This of your phone number. Just the first 3 digits". I pretended to read her mind then right it down. Then I said, "Now think of the last four digits". I repeated the mind reading and writing.
"You're now thinking of your entire phone number right?" She nods Yes. I look at her. Look at the paper I wrote on. Look back at here again as if I'm making sure I read it right. Then put the paper in my pocket and said "Thank you very much". Then to the rest of the room. "Anyway. On with the show." Of course I didn't really get her phone number just then but I got it later and we where together for 7 years. That's a true story. But it wasn't the magic that made it happen. That was only the circumstances we meet in. Ron Jaxon |
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gaddy Inner circle Agent of Chaos 3526 Posts |
Here's a silly thread I started a while ago- more of the same on this subject...
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......forum=41
*due to the editorial policies here, words on this site attributed to me cannot necessarily be held to be my own.*
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JSBLOOM Inner circle 2024 Posts |
This was discussed on the pick up artist show!
Just kidding; however, as mentioned above, magic should compliment your personality. Here are some thoughts, crazy, but why not? As an opener, do sticky situation... excuse me, would you happen to have a napkin....let's her know you do magic carry on conversation....find out if she even likes magic..... if she does, ask her if she likes card tricks...say great, we are going to do a napkin trick. Do Dan Harlin's starcycle and as you give her he star,tell her may all your wishes come tru and it was nice meeting you then walk away. Let her come to you! |
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disneywld Special user Denver, CO 614 Posts |
Multiplying rabbits - They are cute and allow you to be cute. Great opener. You can also change a $1 bill into a $100 dollar bill...But that's another story.
The Magic of Christopher Manos
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