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Billy Bo
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Recently I saw Martin Sanderson perform the chop cup using someone's hand as the table. Does this work? I tried on myself and really felt the ball on my hand and as for final loads. Anyone do this when performing? Any thought?
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There was a good routine in Genii magazine where a silk was placed on the spectator's hand. This might help.

I've bought 3 of these magazines and keep losing them.

The silk is used as cover as well for loading the lemon.
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I keep my chop cup in a Crown Royal bag and have worked it on someone's hand many times, similar to how Frank described, without using it as an aid to loading. The only time they seem to know anything is when the final load is in place, and they really don't know how it got there. They just know its there a few seconds before everyone else. I use a baseball, but if a lighter weight load were used, it may not be felt.

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You could also employ a leather chop cup which allows you to "hold out" the final load with a gentle squeeze. This is a great way to do an in-the-hands routine.
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Sure they feel something Stevie D but they never ever say anything, don't worry about the weight, for the owner of the hand, it is a wierd sensation. I prefer in the hand, to table alternative.
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On 2005-05-23 04:28, Philippe wrote:
...for the owner of the hand, it is a wierd sensation.


Basically, that equates to a slightly different climax coming at a slightly different time for that one person (with the rare possibility of anyone else being alerted by the foreshadowing caused by their changed facial expression!). Nothing wrong with that. Some performers have learned to exploit that concept rather nicely.

Even when asked by the others, the person with the borrowed hand may confess to knowing it was there, but can usually offer nothing as to how it got there. That kind of spectator verification can actually turbo-boost the trick's impact. After all, in the eyes of the other spectators, this guy has a decided advantage, and still comes up basically empty!

Squeezing a leather cup?? Not bad, but I'd prefer my hand to be noticably away from the cup for a few seconds. Perhaps jamming it up in, and dislodging it later?? Or does that hint at the chop method?? Would be cool if it stayed for about 5 seconds, and then dropped by itself!! Could you imagine feeling that??

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In "Don't Forget to Point" by the Flicking Fingers there is a CC routine that (at least partially) happens in the spec's hands, with an ingenious if somewhat "knacky" final load move.
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"Would be cool if it stayed for about 5 seconds, and then dropped by itself!! Could you imagine feeling that?? "
~michael

That would be awesome! I think with some experimentation with certain 'semi-grippy' loads this would be possible. I'm going to break out my sitting-on-the-shelf chop-cup just to try that.
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Thanks for the advice I love the chop cup and now I can perform it strolling. any other tips on resetting the cup between groups of people
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On 2005-05-23 14:22, STEVIE D wrote:
Thanks for the advice I love the chop cup and now I can perform it strolling. any other tips on resetting the cup between groups of people


Stick everything back into your pocket and move along. No biggie.

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The chop cups I'm about to put on my website use two identical balls.
It makes the reset easier because you don't need to figure out which is which.

They both stick and they both don't, depending on your mood.
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Interesting. I'm intrigued.
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If I may say , I have a prototype of Frank's new leather Chop Cup. In one word , AWESOME.. I have shown it to many Magi's and have fooled them . Every one has identified as a backgammon/ yatzhee cup so it does not have a GIMMICK look to it. It has a very postive feel/grip to it. Can't go wrong with it. Good for Dice stacking too
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I went on the site and it said coming soon. Any idea on when?
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