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sinnead zenun Elite user Mt. Makiling 408 Posts |
Maybe like what baba said inner conflict be gone... or mayo confused in his story telling...
lately I'm confused.... since you guys are my family and friends...let me tell my feelings... lately I was getting tired of doing the scary stuffs... I want to deal more with human emotion and values... instead of making the spectator scream because of fright, I want them to cry from a sensitive emotion... I want them to feel anger... something which is hateful in this world... I want them to have a feeling how wonderful it is to be alive than scaring them about the topic of death... I want them to fall in love... I want them to laugh... I want to share the feeling of sadness or the feeling of being kind to others... I want to release their emotions, touch them deep inside their heart... maybe I really need a break... need to polish things up... any advice??? |
Peter Marucci Inner circle 5389 Posts |
No advice at all; you are heading in the right direction.
Bizarre magic might best be described as touching the spectators on a higher emtional level; it does NOT have to be scary, shoulish, or grave-related! In short, story-telling magic, with a point to the story. As an example of bizarre magic in the opposite direction of what is generally thought, check out my column, Bizarre Bazaar in the e-zine Visions (www.online-visions.com); some of my stuff is comedy-bizarre, as well. No password, no fees, just solid material from all the contributors. |
ptbeast Special user Oregon 831 Posts |
I believe that storytelling, especially when enhanced by magic, has the ability to touch the full spectrum of human emotions. Even when my goal is to scare, I try to go beyond a simple startle and make my guests ride a roller-coaster of emotion. Some routines are scary. Some are simply fun. Others can bring the spectator to tears. Such is the power of the story. All you need to do is decide how you wish to use it.
I wish I had some profound advice, but all I can really tell you is to write some new material that attempts to reach people in a different way. Then get out there and perform it and see how people react. See how you react. Simply follow your heart. Dave |
13ofhearts New user Fayetteville, AR 21 Posts |
Wonderful! I too have gone down this path. I did't want to get into bizarre magic for a long time because I didn't like the way they were always trying (sometimes trying too hard) to scare people. I also didn't want to have to use a pint of stage blood every time I preformed . I learned that bizzare magic and storytelling magic aren't just about the emotion of fear, but are really about all the emotions and making your magic really be about something. That's the thing that seperates it from other types of magic, the meaning. And don't worry, you and I are not alone in these thoughts, there are many others!
Eric
Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. --Groucho Marx
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calexa Inner circle Germany 1635 Posts |
In my eyes "bizarre magick" is not only about "scaring" people and creating fear. In my eyes it is about story-telling, which brings out emotions in the spectator!
Magixx
Optimists have more fun.....
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Peter Marucci Inner circle 5389 Posts |
13ofhearts writes: "And don't worry, you and I are not alone in these thoughts, there are many others!"
How true! Ghoulish bizarre is the last refuge of the unimaginative. I am now on my third bizarre magic lecture and, of the first two, each includes at least one "non-scary" routine, or humorous routine, or simply endearing routine. It's the fact of the emotion, not the specific emotion, that makes bizarre bizarrre. |
kaytracy Inner circle Central California 1793 Posts |
I find myself wanting to leave people with a sense of wonder, in any of it's iterations and definitions. There are a few things I do that are intended to scare folks, but mostly I want them to take a second thought about what we have both just done or experienced, and allow them to have a little shift in their mindset.
Their own concience will take them further than I ever could. Plant the seed of idea, give it a bit of nourishment in the form of your story and a hint of fertilizer in your effect, then let them set the fruit and reap the harvest. I as the story teller might be long gone by the time it hits them! I just got a call three days after a small showing of things. The folks were on their way baack to the East coast and wanted to say that they enjoyed the palm readings, and the special stories. They are still talking about a basic Equivoque that we did.
Kay and Tory
www.Bizarremagick.com |
Mayo Loyal user WorymWood 211 Posts |
Hey man, You don't need a break at the moment, That is what most of us strive for. That inner connection. The emotion, That to me is the real magic, when you touch someones heart that is the real deal.
Don't take a break, but just sit back one day with a journal and just start writing out something that moves you, just like in English class. When you have it all down, edit the story you have made, then start working on the effect for the story if you need any help with the effect, We are here for you. I myself have problems doing what I stated in my last paragraph sadly. But am getting better about it. You limit yourself to the trick, which limits your imagination when you take a trick and put a story on the trick. But bizarre, is not about scaring people. Granted that emotion is a strong one. The bizarre is magic that goes beyond, " Look at me I'm a magician." And gets involved with you, and your audience. You are well on your way! And you have actually helped me as I typed this. I thank you for it my friend. I look forward to hearing your new magic. Your Friend, ~Mayo
"I love the night. It's the only time I feel really alive."
---Helen Chandler in the film "Dracula" (1931) "There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to l |
Mystician Inner circle Wallachia 3485 Posts |
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On 2005-05-24 05:44, Peter Marucci wrote: Hey now, I resemble that remark ! umm.. the first part, anyway Not necessarily; some of us just like the dark stuff ! But I totally agree that bizarre does not have to mean spooky. I would stop short of calling it a stereotype, only because a slim majority of it probably is spooky, but that's just one facet of this 666 caret diamond. oops there I go again ..
Just hanging out with the rest of my fellow dregs.
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sinnead zenun Elite user Mt. Makiling 408 Posts |
Well thanks everybody
I think, I am ok now... |
Moonlit Knight Regular user U.S. 113 Posts |
Sinnead zenun – I, too, applaud your growth in the realization that bizarre does not need to be spooky or frightening. Even though you seem to be “ok now”, it seems your post was asking for more than a justification of your desires and you were requesting ways to develop the skills to better your performance and development. If I’m correct in my interpretation, I’ll pass on some advice as to studies that will assist you on your journey. If you have not done so as of yet, I suggest that you study acting, sales, philosophy, psychology, sociology, screenwriting, playwriting, and perfect your communication skills (remember - communication is not just speaking but listening, too). These studies and their various branches, if looked into seriously, will assist you in understanding what to say and do and when. They will also give some insight as to how to better control your audience’s emotions, understanding where they may be coming from and why they may not openly show the emotions you wish. Above all else, these studies will give you the ability to better design and sell the performance’s believability. Play and screenwriting skills, accompanied with the others, will give you a sound knowledge to create a proper base for writing routines and a better foundation to rework what you may come across to fit your needs.
Bizarre magic is not simply attaching a story to a trick, but blending the two together to make them/it real. If you understand what is important to your audience, then the presentations will be more powerful. Of course, with the proper presentation, some stories alone are more powerful then if accompanied by any trick and visa-versa. In time, you will learn what props and motivation are necessary and when too much is being done or more should be added. It’s also a good idea to often ask yourself who you are performing for - you or your audience?
"Join the dance... Follow on! With a twist of the world we go."
- Genesis "Dancing With The Moonlit Knight" |
atucci Veteran user Middleburg, Florida 381 Posts |
Sinnead - you've received a lot of advice recently and it’s encouraging that you want to appeal to your audience's emotions. Keep working at it, document everything (scripts, shows: location, setting, type of audience, etc, results) and experiment. You're engineering major - you understand the necessity to experiment and tweak until you get you're desired results. Also get hold of Eugene Burger's stuff. According to him, the results you desire may be as simple as using their name, innocently touching them during a performance, etc.
Tony Tuccillo
Middleburg, Florida |
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