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I have found this link to a website that shows a clip of a show where I think Derren Brown does a quite interesting experiment. He makes an arcade game that, when hooked up to a neighboring computer, can be used to hypnotize people. What happens is that the person is all caught up shooting zombies then all of a sudden they become hypnotized and.. well I am not going to give it away. But I will tell you one thing. It is "wicked!"

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Does anyone know when Derren did this, when it was aired and on what TV show? Also, post what you think about it.
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This was one of the highlights from his recent series-Trick of the Mind 2. I liked it and it was quite unusual and original.
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It was amazing to watch. The hypnotised guy was blown away with it. Didn't know what was reality and what wasn't.
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Ok, so does anyone want to discuss the ethics of this?

/Bamba
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Hard to discuss the ethics without knowing exactaly how it worked.
It was fun to watch though.

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If you have just seen it then , discuss away . But many of the Brits discussed it here a few weeks ago :
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......5&51
Scan for Roki if you want the most intelligent comments.
I'm interested in what the rest of you think though.

(P.S. I'm not really arrogant its just my cyberego}
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And your massive cyberpenis

It was good, and totally unethical. Great stuff.
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It was totally irresponsible and gave the wrong idea of hypnosis. Just think, if the gun was real, the implication was that the subject would have committed murder irrespective of the actual method used. The public would have seen a man put into a hypnotic trance and fooled into committing an act of murder.
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My understanding is that the guy had already been tested for suggestibility and had signed an agreement to take part in the show...he just didn't know specifically what he'd be doing.

Not unethical because they had the guy's agreement, totally irresponsible because of it's portrayal of hypnosis being set back 50 years.
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Surely the whole "if it were a real gun think what could have happened is.." exactly the debate that DB wanted to start

.. now those of us familiar with hypnosis know that suggestions to go kill someone won't work - or at least that's what we're told - I dare say, and hope to god, that people havent tried, I certainly haven't - but "tricking" someone into murder is certainly capable whether hypnosis is used or not.

Wasn't it Kreskin that told someone, under hypnosis, to stab him in the back and the guy just freaked out a bit, dropped the knife and came out of his "trance" - so DB isn't the first mentalist to explore this avenue..
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Exploring the notion and actually executing it are two different things. Derren just demonstrated that it was possible without qualifying it in any way. The lay audience would have walked away feeling that it was possible to fool someone into committing murder. It was foolish and ignorant and I think it has set the public perception of hypnosis back fifty years.
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Had the viewing public been shown everything that really happened-like signing an agreement etc,they wouldnt be as impressed.TV editing sucks!
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On 2005-06-13 08:23, Harry H wrote:
Had the viewing public been shown everything that really happened-like signing an agreement etc,they wouldnt be as impressed.TV editing sucks!
Meh, it's part of the effect. If someone knew that I just did a center tear, then all of a sudden, it isn't impressive. He made a great presentation, ethical or not.
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I loved it just goes to show the power of persuasion by the TV doesn't it.
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I believe the impression given to the audience was that the subject believed himself to be INSIDE the game, living as the game's character - I don't think many thought of the issue of murder at all, only that it was possible to make someone think they are in the game.

Regarding ethics, as bartlewizard said (and I can only assume), the guy HAD given consent for 'something' - thus, medical issues etc. had been checked and his safety confirmed.

All speculaiton of course, Tom.
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I agree Tom I never thought "Murder"
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I never considered it until I read this thread!
David Numen
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But it does set hypnosis back several years does it not? I am surprised that anyone in involved in hypno would endorse this as good entertainment.
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What? Set hypnosis back? Huh?

Think of how many copies of Grand Theft Auto have been sold for playstation. No, wait, even better, think of how many hours each kid who gets the game ends up wasting away sitting plugged into the tv.

I think it was just a demonstration of what video games can do to your mind, and Derren took it to an extreme to make a point.
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YEs it involved video games, but Derren explicitly claimed the game was designed to put someone under a trance and then we proceeded to see the guy act out the game for real...so viewers are left with the impression of hypnosis being instantaneous on any passing punter and of the hypnotist not even needing to be present to have Svengali like effects on his victim.
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