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perlimpinpin
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Hi all

I think I'm not using my pulls in the right way. I always find that instead of snapping directly back into my sleeve or vest the pull dangles for a few seconds.

Any help much appreciated.

Daniel
Larry Davidson
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Are you wearing a jacket and a short sleeve shrit?
perlimpinpin
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Jacket and long sleeve shirt actually. Is that really the issue ?
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Larry Davidson
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It's possible that it's hanging up on your sleeve. I suggest that you try it with a short sleeve shirt. If that doesn't work, you might try shortening the elastic a bit to give it a bit more "pull." Also, the diameter of your jacket sleeve might be a bit too small.
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I would agree with Larry, not taught enough or you could even think about the material of your closes, make sure its smooth and slippery and you should have no problems.

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I use pulls an awful lot. I have found through experience that its good to get a shirt 1 or 2 sizes too big (if your wearing a button down especially)

Also, I hook a rubber band or another elastic band around my arm and the elastic of the pull which is on the bottom side on my arm. This tends to guide the pull so it does not catch on the sleeves.

You really need to play with the placement and hookup to insure it works well for you. in my experience every shirt or jacket requires something different.

Play with the lengths and you'll find something that works 100% of the time, or close to it...

Steven
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If you are wearing a jacket (or open shirt over a t-shirt) don’t bother using the sleeves! The pull can be anchored to the rear of your pants brought to the left or right side and using a safety pin can be made to come to rest just behind your front trousers pocket.

Lift your coat a little, look as if you are going into your pocket, and grab the working end of the pull. It comes out front of your jacket and the elastic is masked by your arm and by your jacket. Lean for ward a bit to let the jacket hang open and away from your body when you do the vanish. Poof, it’s gone and never a hang up.

I’ve known several professional magicians who use pulls in their acts (lit cigarette pull, hank pull, and even a water pull) none of them use the sleeve. One fellow used to have a spectator grip his forearm to “prove” the vanish wasn’t up his sleeve.

If you absolutely have to use the sleeve, then reinforce the sleeve open with a band of thin plastic. It is fairly easy to add a bit of plastic between the coat proper and the lining. And take all of the other good advice given above.
The artist formally known as Mumblepeas!
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I've been using pulls for 5 years or so and never knew if I was doing it the right way but from this thread I see I got it down. Any suggestions on new pulls or are the generally the same?
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On 2005-07-19 15:44, Harry Murphy wrote:
If you absolutely have to use the sleeve, then reinforce the sleeve open with a band of thin plastic. It is fairly easy to add a bit of plastic between the coat proper and the lining. And take all of the other good advice given above.



Fabric stores sell "boning" material that would work for this.
It's used for collar stays and other stiffening purposes.
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The first elastic pull I ever used (believe it or not) came with a magic kit. It was just a basic elastic pull, something similiar to the Vernon. It became the foundation of all my other pulls that I created or customized to suit my performance abilities. I've seen many pulls on the market, but thanks to a basic knowledge of pulls I've never felt a need to purchase any of them.

I use pulls a lot, and the key thing to keep in mind is the adjustment specific for the item you are going to vanish. Playing around with different possible hook-ups will help in finding the right one for the specific need. Make sure the pull isn't too tight, or too loose. You should never have to hear a snap. Part of keeping a pull silent is your handling. Play around in a mirror as if you were moving in slow motion, staring at your hands in the mirror as you make the item vanish. This helps with finding the right handling that doesn't expose the operations of the pull effect, and it helps you get comfortable with letting go without feeling a need to extend the pull first.(most common reason for the snap sound) Extend the hand, not the pull. Extending the hand as you let go of the pull, rather than extending the hand and then letting go of the pull. Those extra cm's do make a difference. Smile
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I use pulls a lot. I made my first one when I was 9 years old, from a cut down TP cardboard tube and rubber bands (the instructions on making one were in some obscure childhood magic book I was given). Now, over 50 years later, I don't use elastic anymore, I use reels. Elastic loses power for every inch of it's returning to no tension. A good reel maintains the pulling power throughout it's entire retraction.

For sleeve pulls I use a Viking silk pull (very slim with not pear shaped at all) and Vernet's Invisible TT. I toss the elastic and use reels for all of them. I've only had one failure in all that time and I covered it as best as I could. That taught me a good lesson about reel maintenance. For vest and coat pulls I really like the Uday wooden pulls, but I spray paint them with a black satin finish. The wood is very pretty, but it can flash too much. They are a buck each at Madhatter.

Currently, for the money, $20.00, it's hard to beat the big India made brass reels. I use an El Duco Swedish reel if I really need power and/or speed or a reel that has a stop and brake.

Try a good reel and follow the other magis advice about sleeve requirements too.


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