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The Mac Inner circle 1982 Posts |
When I got my Copperfield Illusions DvD. I was amazed.. It was the starting point of me getting into Grand Illusions. Then I learnt the principles, bases. black art, mirrors, body doubles, and savy camera angles.
Now when I watch it - I look at table thickness, swops, changes, it all looks so obvious now.Even if I cant figure out an illusion entirely, there's pieces of it I know I got right. I know I'm supposed to appreciate the act but that *** base is soo huge!!! HOw do you guys feel about all this? |
Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24314 Posts |
I feel that it should be discussed in the Banquet Room.
But since you have it out here in the open, let me ask you this: do you think that the fact that I know how a piano works diminishes my enjoyment of Arthur Rubenstein's playing at all? I watch magicians on television to see their artistry.
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George Ledo Magic Café Columnist SF Bay Area 3042 Posts |
I have to agree with Bill: I feel the same way about Horowitz's recordings.
When I watch a movie, say the latest Star Wars, I know some of the characters exist only inside a computer. I know the light sabers are fake. I know the scenes in the Death Star and the various ships actually took place inside a sound stage in Australia or somewhere. But I'm watching the movie and the story for its entertainment value. I'm a set designer, and sometimes I do catch myself looking at the details in the scenery, but I just pull away from it... unless the performace is so poor that the scenery is more interesting. Hmmmmm... I may get flamed for saying this, but I'd say that a really good magician should be able to capture our attention and make us ignore the stuff we're not supposed to see, even if we know what it is.
That's our departed buddy Burt, aka The Great Burtini, doing his famous Cups and Mice routine
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Marshall Thornside Inner circle chicago 2016 Posts |
I watch magic on tv to point out
what they did wrong. as far as what music (rubinstien and horowitz) has relation to this... Horowitz's wife used always criticize her husband when he would practise in thier home. She had an ear on her!
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Hideo Kato Inner circle Tokyo 5649 Posts |
In most cases, I am impressed more when I knew how it's done than when I first saw illusion. If you have tendency to get disappointed when you knew the secrets of magic, you tend to miss imprortant factors how magicians perfected the illusions.
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saxmangeoff Veteran user Moscow, ID, USA 353 Posts |
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On 2005-06-18 19:32, georgefl38 wrote: No flames here. If you ever saw Jim Henson on a talk show or something where he was "visible" along with Kermit, it was fascinating to watch. He made no attempt to be a "ventriloquist." His lips moved normally while Kermit was talking. Shucks, I'm pretty sure I even recall seeing him unceremoniously take Kermit off his hand. Even so, the illusion that Kermit was a living creature independent of Jim Henson was so strong, that you were able to "forget" about the fact that Kermit was a muppet, and it was really just Jim Henson pretending. In other words, a great demonstration of the point you're making. Geoff
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Bill Hallahan Inner circle New Hampshire 3226 Posts |
That's my favorite magic video.
I can watch it as a magician, but I can easily turn off analyzing and view his presentations as a non-magician. That says a lot about David Copperfield's acting and showmanship, not to mention the quality of the illusions. A good magician fools me with their magic. I wonder how they do it. When I see a great magician, I don't care about how they do it. I'm too involved in the story. I agree with georgefl38's Star Wars analogy. I don't think that movie is fake when I watch it. That would ruin the movie!
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Laughing Otter Loyal user Behind you! 205 Posts |
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On 2005-06-18 18:39, Bill Palmer wrote: My favorite example of this is watching the Pendragons' Metamorphosis. Having performed it with my partner for several years, (with scarred shins to remember it by) I know exactly what each of them is doing during every second of that routine, yet I'm completely blown away by how *well* they do it. The effect transcends the mechanism. |
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