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krantis
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Dear Deans Box owners...
I perform the Deans Box with a ghost/spirit theme.... The Scott Alexander ending really doesn't do anything for me... I have tried it, nothing for my audiences either.
Apart from messages appearing on slate etc, are there any other cool - yet stunning endings for this routine..... my brain must be in magic overload.
I perform a majority of the sequences that come with the video and explained on Scott Alexanders DVD - come on guys...??? Lets warp this thing. Smile
Dan LeFay
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If you treat the Box as a special box and do not stick to the linking/unlinking theme the possibilities are endless.
Effects like Invisible Deck, Triumph or even B'Wave get a whole different meaning when putting them into the box.
And what about the bolt and nut that get unscrewed?
The issue of making effects covert instead of overt opens up many possibilities here.

The strength of Dean's Box in my opinion is that it offers both an diabolical method as well as an intriguing object!
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I like very much the Dean Box but was looking for additional effects to the 3 original one presented on the video. I've found an interesting one in K Fulves self working handkerchiefs magic, p24: The Antique Shop a very strong effect based on the Cords of Phantasia principle (idea from Hans van Baaren): the handkerchiefs, tied to ropes escapes itself and the rope escape from the box.

Any other idea of rope magic or other stuff with Dean's Box ?
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Pete Biro
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Cut and restored rope. Knots appear in rope.

Think of olde Sprit Cabinet items, words appear on a slate, a card rises (not seen, do it when door closed)...

Now it is your turn to think.
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krantis
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Thanks guys - more insight for my brain on mystery... much appreciated
:)
John Long
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Sticking with the link/unlink theme:

- you can make the ropes unlink(2 methods, related to phases I & II)
- use the Nana's Neclace principle to allow the ropes to pass thru a ball & the box
- use the string thru neck principle to get thin cords to pass thru a wand that is placed between the side holes

Non-linking
I also came up with a simple way to get 2 ropes, each of a different color, to each turn into a 2 colored rope.


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Scott Alexander
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Sorry you didn't like the ending with the spirit hand.

Something that I didn't put on the dvd but did tinker with was the idea of telling the audience that the effect was done by tying special knots in the rope. During the last phase...I had the ropes examined and body loaded a giant ball of rope about 5 inches in diameter that looked like a giant knot. Then I did the last phase and at the end ...revealed a giant knot of rope inside the box. The knot can be loaded with the right misdirection much like a cups and balls load.

Maybe this will offer an alternitive you can explore.
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Pete Biro
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Buy a second box, fill it with cement and do a switch... Smile
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To the lay audience Dean's box wows em
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You are right Terry, the wow factor is high. Magicians I have shown it to aren't nearly as impressed as the uninitiated to magic folks are. Most magic friends have commented to me it's overpriced but still, it is one of my favorite closeup tricks to perform for folks.

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Dean's Box fools magicians so bad they buy it just to learn how it works! Smile
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I must agree that it fooled me so bad I'm now in the market for one. Even though I now know how it is done and I could likely do it with a cardboard box (except for the third stage), I think the investment will be worth it.
Steve V
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Put your tied together silks into the box with ends out the sides and do your 21st century silks. Let specs pull on the silks. This makes it valid for kids shows while the rope routines suggested by Dean work better with older kids and adults.
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On 2005-08-10 10:47, Airborne Ranger wrote:
I must agree that it fooled me so bad I'm now in the market for one. Even though I now know how it is done and I could likely do it with a cardboard box (except for the third stage), I think the investment will be worth it.


With a little creativity and that special little thing you probably could even do stage three with a corrugated cardboard box. Think about it. It might be fun to try. Possibly a great street routine.
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That may be interesting. I have to try the third stage with a regular cardboard box.
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Dean's Box: a Famous Magician showed this to me a few weeks ago. To be fair, he hadn't had it long, and he fumbled a little in phase 1. It sort-of impressed me, but not in a "wow" way, because I could imagine, very vaguely, how it might be done. I then looked at the online video and after two or three replays and a bit of playing around with bits of string, the method seems pretty obvious and I can imagine how a bit of gimmicking would permit phase 3.

Now, I know most spectators won't go to the lengths I did, but for it to be a killer routine, it has to impress me more than than that. Equally, I read lots of testimonials to what a brilliant routine, magician-fooler etc that it is. This surprises me. I've seen several rope routines that impress me much more, which I still can't figure out (I don't know much about rope magic).

So I can only imagine that it takes a heck of a lot of practice and presentation-honing to get it to perfection. Is this the case?
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No. Just smooth handling and confidence.
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Perhaps the Slydini Knotted Silks would work well with the box. You could easily make it work with a Pogo Ball Routine--that could be spooky.
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????? What is a pogo ball?

Something I did only once, during a dealer-demo, was showing a CC-knife. It seemed to have a red color when held in the box. The moment it was withdrawn from the curtain it became white. I was just doing this to kill some time, but the magicians who were watching me play were very amused by the reactions of two laypeople. The laypeople offered to put other objects in the box to see what color it would get. mwahaha!
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Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths,
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and forgot."
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Pogo Ball is a trick in which a styrofoam ball is placed beside a glass in a box. The door to the box is momentarily closed, and instantly opened, but the ball is now resting quietly inside the glass--spooky!
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