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I have read some things lately about magical hole punch effects. Hollow and Pothole come to mind.



There was a Michael Webber effect I saw on one of his videos at least 10 years ago where a hole was moved from one ticket to another.



Do these effects differ significantly in either method or effect?



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Close's "Pothole Trick" is a direct (and credited) descendent of Weber's earlier "One-Two Punch". A far superior one, presentationally, I might add (not to mention some subtle technical refinements).



I'm not sure about the other effects out there, although from what I hear they're inferior in method. I can tell you that the Close/Weber effect is quite brilliantly simple, and incredibly effective.
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The Pothole trick, Hollow, et al. are direct descendants of an old Tenyo trick, the name of which escapes me. Stephan Minch demonstrated it to me in Seattle in the late 70's (I think). It used a plastic card with a hole in it, and a pen that just fit the hole. The pen was the forerunner of the "Perfect pen" (and others like it), and used the same principle; the "card" was also gaffed. In turn, that trick was a descendent of a Japanese trick using a piece of parchment and carefully drawn (ink) "holes", wherein the holes "moved" about the parchment.



"That which has been is that which will be, and that which has been done is that which will be done. So there is nothing new under the sun." Ecclesiastes 1:9



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Thanks for the answers guys. I really liked the Weber effect so I guess I should check out the pothole trick.



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If you are interested in a more broad number of effects with holes, as in a theme, Daryl had a funny comedy bit with jumbo cards featuring the theme "The Whole Thing." It is well thought out. Also, for closeup, one can buy the original version of that which was the root of the stage version.



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Thomas:



I believe you are talking about Tenyo's "The Wandering Hole."



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If your post was directed at my comments... different trick. The Whole Thing is a packet effect involving "Hole" cards and "Whole" cards. The inventors are the two guys who did so many packet tricks... I want to say Emerson and West... is that right. Anyway, Daryl had a nice jumbo version but it is not at his site so it may not be available.

The small original version, if you are interested, is at Chazpro.com under "whole thing".



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The whole thing was created by Larry West of Emerson and West fame. Daryl just had it made up in Jumbo cards.



The Wandering Hole did predate the Weber effect, which appeared in "Lifesavers." In his comments on this effect, Weber credits Alex Elmsley's "Puncture" (Collected Works of Alex Elmsley, Vol 1--which first appeared in Bruce Elliott's "Phoenix" magazine in the early 50's), as his inspiration.



In the notes on the Elmsley effect in "Collected Works," Stephen Minch credits Robert Haskell as the first magician to adapt the moveable hole concept to a magic effect. Minch goes on to name Hideo Kato Michael Powers (Holey Terror), Johnny Lindholm, Weber, Tooru Suzuki, Bruce Cervon, David Harkey and Close as others who created effects based on the theme.



Elmsley's effect was probably the most influential and most closely resembles the current effects. The Haskell routine was a stage effect.
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i didn't realize when I signed up for this board that I would be going back to school. Smile



So many subjects, so little time! Thanks for the history lesson!



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Didn't mean to be boring, I just think it's important to know where our roots are.
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On the contrary, I enjoy the history lessons. Hope you didn't take it the wrong way.



There is such a wealth of knowledge on this board it's amazing!



Thanks again

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No problem. I wasn't offended, just concerned that the "lesson" might have been unwelcome. Glad to hear it wasn't!
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