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On 2009-06-18 20:16, Moxahalla wrote:
IMHO--Asking if the date is "even" or "odd"...and THEN reaching into your pocket for the calendar --is suspicious. Instead, just ask for the date itself, and then pull out the calendar.

Make a crib-sheet - so that you'll know the prediction card without ever having to open the calendar yourself (ok--I'll give this away---write a crib-sheet on the back of a "Blank-back" playing card. Put that card into a deck. As you patter about the relation of 52 cards and a calendar...spread the card faces to audience--allowing you to secretly glimpse at crib card in deck. Crib sheet can also be on rear of a small spiral notepad--on the front of pad you visibly write down the called-out date, and then glimpse the peek).

Buy the calendar books and write the cards in your own handwriting---the printed-up commercial versions look suspicious and fake.

I produce one of the 4 Jumbo prediction playing cards from my pocket--and at the same time - I also remove the calendar booklet...and I hand the calendar directly to the spectator w/o ever needing to open it.

(btw - I'm don't use "LOL"..cause I'm an adult)


Hi Mox -

I was wondering if the even / odd was suspicious as well. When I saw it performed many years ago (I was new in magic), it flew right by me. Like Edd said, I think the performer just made some joke and you forget the question was asked. It does seem fishy, but maybe that's just because I know that it's part of the method...
The nice thing about asking even/odd is you then have the book on the table before they give you the date - which is more powerful. So it's a matter of determining which is the lesser of two evils.

Then Mats brought up the Piatt envelope - which solves both problems. Good idea. I've never seen a Piatt envelope, but I'm pretty sure I know what it is. If it is what I think it is, you'd need to buy two of them, right?

Come to think of it - the drawback of that method is that each week is almost the same, with no "completely random" cards interspersed, right?
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Anything from Cassidy is gold... enough said.
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Just found this thread and wanted to add my little adjustments to what is a killer effect already. I loved the fact that THEY chose the date, THEY looked into the diary to see what was written, THEY can take the envelope out of the sleev, but HATED the fact that I had to then take the envelope to open it up. It just killed the fairness completely.

I now have ditched the 2 cards supplied with the effect and carry just one, normal card in each envelope. Now when the trick is done 50% of the time I never touch a thing, and they do the whole thing in their own hands. A million times better in my opinion.

I then carry one card in my top outside breast pocket on my suit jacket for out number 3, which if this is the card I need I simply lean towards the person and ask them to remove what is in my top pocket.

Finally, most suits have 4 inside pockets. One on the right hand side and 3 on the left (no idea why?!)

I carry the 4th card in the lowest of the 3 pockets as it's completely out of the way of the others and looks a bit odd in itself anyway.

I then just say "When I first started buying suits to do this job, I always wondered why there was a random little pocket stuck down here... Do me a favour just reach in and see what's in there?"

There's your 4th reveal. But remember by doing the effect this way 50% of the time the card is in the diary and THEY have full control in opening it up. The other 2 times it's in pockets, but it's blatently obvious you have not had any time to find the card in a deck and put it there.

Try it sometime...

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I may have posted this here before, but I use it to stall for time when performing Perfect Time, also a Collector's Workshop item. That way, you've not only predicted the exact time, but apparently the date, too.

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Thank to everyone who has posted on this thread over the past 5-6 years for all of the reviews and information on this trick. I am currently looking for a good 'Diary' trick to add to my set and right now the 3 I'm considering are 1. Chronologue, 2. Travelogue and 3. Wink's Diary. I will do some reading in the other 2 threads and in the meantime, if anyone has a recommendation one way or another on any of these three, please reply here or PM me.

Or, better yet, if you know of another one that I am unaware of, please let me know about that as well.

Thanks, -Tony
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Tony, IMHO Chronologue is by far the strongest of the three you mentioned. I'm pretty sure most others on here concur.
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Gabelson, I really appreciate the reply. I've heard such good things about Bob Cassidy's 'Chronologue' and Richard Pinner's 'Travelogue' and am just trying to decide which to buy but your recommendation may have helped me with my decision.

In another thread duscussing 'Travelogue, I was disappointed to read that there are 12 (you know what's) to this trick. That seems like an awful lot. I am wondering how many there are for this trick, 'Chronologue'. (Actually, I thought in that 'Travelogue' thread, they were actually talking about the number of (you know what's) for 'Chronologue'.

I'm sorry if this is getting confusing. Basically, I would like to know how many (you know what's) there are for both effects? In my opinion, there is a happy medium between the number of (you know what's). Too many and it will be hard to manage/remember. Too little and it is not very repeatable. I think 2 would be optimal for Travelogue and 4 for Chronologue, but in reality, I have no idea how many each effect has.
In Travelogue, it appears that the envelope with the prediction is out before the date selection is made. In that case, I can't see there being more than 2 or 4 (you know what's) at the most since they all must fit in the same envelope.

(the following is a direct copy from another post of mine, but since it applies here too, I will include it and hopefully I will get some responses to one or the other)

BTW, pardon my ignorance, but what are the rules on the forums about hiding certain 'special' words? Does the Café blog automatically put the asterisks (*) in place of certain letters for certain special magical words or do people do it themselves? Also, why can't you type the word out? Is it reavealing anything to other magicians (or layment for that matter) if you just use the word I'm referring to as (you know what's)? I think it's foolish to think that only magicians can deduce the true identity of these 'secret' words. Does anyone else think the same way I do or am I alone here?

I understand the concept of not revealing methods for tricks, but if there is something I should have read with regards to this topic about how to properly conceal certain words, please direct me to it.

Respectfully,
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To answer the last poster's question... You must place the asterisks in place of letters. The Café doesn't do this.

I did however want to resurrect this old thread for this wonderfully powerful effect.
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I read somewhere that the marketed version uses Richard Osterlind's routine for Bob's Chronologue. Anyone use Richard's?
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I've used this effect for many years and it always is a winner!!
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I'm sorry to open this thread as it is a bit old. I can't, for the life of me, find any older pocket planners/calendars for this routine. I checked the link provided on the previous page, but there are no more. Can anyone help me locate any? or if you have any lying around please let me know.
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You are looking for a week to view diary, very simple to find on line!

Best Wishes Michael

P.S The diary world has a new contender being released very soon send me a pm if you want to learn more!
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I happened to come across an explanation for a similar effect today. In that version the performer gets around asking whether it's an even or odd date by having several spectators determine the date. He asks the first spectator if he wants to have an even or an odd date. After the first spectator has made this decision you know ... you know what. The next spectator may then decide if the date is in the first or second half of the year, while you take out the calemdar. The third spectator may choose the month and the fourth spectator the day of the month. You can easily motivate this procedure by saying that spectators often suspect that you use a stooge or that you somehow could guess or find out which date might be of significance for that person. You can even emphasize the fairness of the process by having the spectators throw a ball or other object to determine the next spectator. I find this a very clever idea. I don't know if this has been posted somewhere already.
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What do you think about using the heirloom wallet with this?
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For the Bob Cassidy version, how many diaries and switch wallet are necessary?
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Is there any memory and / or math involved in this effect?
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On Jul 30, 2014, reed kammerer wrote:
Is there any memory and / or math involved in this effect?



No
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What do you think about using the heirloom wallet with this?


Get the DVD. Use it the way it is described. You will have a winner. Don't change a thing except your interaction with audience. In other words.... Do it your way keep the structure intact.
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I have used Chronologue for so many years now. It is absolutely brilliant! The ultimate WORKER. I wouldn't consider any other diary trick at all.

I do it EXACTLY as you are supposed to do it but I don't have ANY of the problems mentioned on this thread nor do I use anything else like a pack of cards or a wallet. Keep It Simple!

I don't ask if the date is even or odd - to me that SCREAMS that you are using two diaries.

I simply say "tell us all, in a loud voice, what is the date you merely thought of". They tell us and I cleanly remove the diary from the relevant top inner jacket pocket. I laugh, open my jacket and say "I only have one diary, not 52".

I say "you'll see I've written the names of cards on each day, very badly I'm afraid - writing was always a challenge!"

When they call out the card, I usually "mishear" it which convinces of the spontaneity.

I then say "have you noticed anything else?" When they say "no", I say "look, I'll show you" which motivates me taking the diary back from them.

When I get out the relevant envelope, I place it on the diary and when I reveal the card, I place that on the envelope. This avoids any possibly of a "flash".

While everyone is reacting (you always great a massive reaction, I put the card back into the envelope and the envelope back into the diary the same way.

A WONDERFUL effect. I never leave home without. Smile
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I too have been using Chronologue for so many years.
James, only difference (change)in performing is that I put one diary on the table.
If the spec says a date that does not match the diary
I ask' do you want to go one day in the future or one day in the past',then go on from there.

Love it!

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