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Couldn't have said it better my self.... there are planets out there that are probably 1000 time better than ours.
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Nobody mentions Charlie Jade???
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Who is charlie jade?
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On 2005-08-04 16:47, funny_gecko wrote:
Who is charlie jade?


When in doubt, google.

Yes it's about the water Smile
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Water is indeed the holdup on space colonization, I suspect the latest Deep Impact experiment was to find out if there was water in a comet - almost all space missions have the goal of looking for (a) life and (b) water.

The best idea I've heard on the subject is the Mars colonization ... an unmanned spaceship is sent to mars, when it lands it begins to suck gases from the atmosphere to "refill" it's gas tanks. Six months later, another ship lands - this one has humans. The humans drill pipes 20 feet into the ground, get on the first ship and return home. Over time, the pipes will release gases into the air - greenhouse gases. As mars develops a greenhouse, it will trap heat into the air so that eventually we could colonize mars.

All theory of course, but looks good on paper.

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For mars, or infact the moon we would need SRF technology. SRF's are self replicating factories.
A unit would be placed on the planet or moon and then would start to harvest raw materials to make more factories and so on.
At a predetermined number the factories would then start to specialise in specific tasks.
At present we can't even make a self replicating machine on a small scale.

On water production, I would look at nanotechnology for a possible solution. The creation of a nanomachine that could assemble water molecules from atoms would be nice, you could have a cell filled with many billions of these nanobots making water from raw stella material.

The creation of an atmosphere on mars can only done one way (in this I mean short term terraform) and this would be by capturing a few asteroids and slingshooting them at high speed into mars.
We would be looking for two effects, the first would be the actual impact and surface energy effects like throwing a cloak of material into orbit. The second effect we desire is to fracture the planet itself, we would look at causing massive damage to the structure and thus starting a geological reaction.
The asteroids can be sequenced to split the planet thus. Calculate the resonant frequency, time the asteroid sequence to hit at the most resonant points.
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Actually there are two ways to terea form mars, both being looked at by NASA.

The one that is receiving the most resistance, (for obvious reasons) is to lob a nuke into the north and south poles. This would break up the ice caps, and "wet" the atmosphere, creating rain and releasing some green house gasses. While this might raise the temperature quickly, and thicken the air, it would not grow plants or make livable ground. It would possibly cut the time for the next idea nearly in half. I think this will be skipped.

The more viable appraoch is to start with domes. These "earth" atmosphere filled domes would have plants growing. There ob would be to realease large amounts of Carbon Dioxide into the Martian atmosphere. as the air on mars would thicken from this, and the temperature would rise, soo planst would grow without the dome, and eventaully mars would become as lush a planet as earth is. The problem with this absolutly workable (with today's technology) plan, is that it will take upwards of 1000 years. The upside is you get a natrual livable planet with a day about the same length and an earth day, and temperatures that while the tend to be a bit milder, are quite livable by earth standards, and air just as breathable as ours.

If it is going to take 1000 years, you'd think Nasa would get started, but it hasn't happened yet.
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A new planet that has recently been discovered and released to the media.There is a story of the 10th planet called NIBIRU (that follows an eliptical course)that goes back to the sumerian times,i wonder if this is the same planet?
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Did any watch Dailey Planet and pick up that story abnout the neutron star 10 million tims bigger than our sun that's as old as our universe?
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A new planet that has recently been discovered and released to the media.There is a story of the 10th planet called NIBIRU (that follows an eliptical course)that goes back to the sumerian times,i wonder if this is the same planet?

can you send us a link maybe? Smile
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Actually there are two ways to terea form mars, both being looked at by NASA.

The one that is receiving the most resistance, (for obvious reasons) is to lob a nuke into the north and south poles.


This would never work. For a start we don't have enough nukes and secondly we would need to place the nukes some distance underground.
If the nukes were just fired at it they would not create enough energy to penetrate much below the surface.

Look at the recent tsunami. the energy dissapated in the earthquake makes the output from nuke seem laughable.
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http://www.crawford2000.co.uk/nibiru.htm here,s one site for NIBURU
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4730061.stm there are many more sites do a search
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