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I'm thinking of working on the ole' three shells and a pea. What are some of the better routines for this and where can I find them? Smile Smile
Thanks in advance.
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Those are really nice, and I may even pick up a set of the Scarab shells. Thanks!
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Use the search and search shell game. There is a lot of information on it in the Café!
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You might see the list here for other references you may already have in your library:

http://www.threeshellgame.com/resources.htm

Good luck!

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Thank you.
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If you are starting with the shell game,
Bob Kohler's routine is by far the best on video so far.
Smooth, polished, wonderful ending, easy to learn.

Anything by Whit Haydn, Bob Sheets, Charlie Frye,
and Patrick Page are also well worth acquiring.

Whit has a good routine on PDF on his new DVD but
not performed by him... but will be on a later DVD, I think.
That, very well may be the best once it's out there.
His DVD has tons of ideas and info.

Bob Sheets has a video but his routine in not nearly as polished as Kohler's. However, his tips on using 2 peas, and the inside shift (sheets acquitment) are worth a ton.

Charlie Frye has a good routine on DVD along with a sneaky use of a poker chip.

Glen Bishop's routine has a nice ending.
Andrew Pinard has a great ending but I don't believe it is available unless you ask him directly.
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Another routine you may want to check out is Super shells by Gary Oullete. I know the Sheets routine is based on it. I like the Super shells routine the best so far out of the ones I have seen. I have yet to see Andrew's so once I see his that opinion may change.

I have seen some of the routines mentioned above and none have really been that interesting to me. That is not to say I think there bad routines. Just not what I find interesting.
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I totally agree with Frank Starsini! Excellent suggestions Frank!!! Smile
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On 2005-07-29 01:18, Frank Starsini wrote:
Glen Bishop's routine has a nice ending.


Thanks Frank glad you like it!
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Glenn's got one of the finest, if not THE finest, routines I have ever seen. Period.

And that's in over 36 years in the biz. You may quote me on that, Glenn.

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Phil Cass gets the money on this one. A well structured multi phased gambling routine with a killer ending.

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On 2005-08-09 06:31, Lee Darrow wrote:
Glenn's got one of the finest, if not THE finest, routines I have ever seen. Period.

And that's in over 36 years in the biz. You may quote me on that, Glenn.

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WOW! Thanks very much Lee as one of my close up and magic Teachers (and Hypnotism) that is high marks. I am very honored you said this!
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On 2005-08-09 09:32, bishthemagish wrote:
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On 2005-08-09 06:31, Lee Darrow wrote:
Glenn's got one of the finest, if not THE finest, routines I have ever seen. Period.

And that's in over 36 years in the biz. You may quote me on that, Glenn.

Lee Darrow, C.H.

WOW! Thanks very much Lee as one of my close up and magic Teachers (and Hypnotism) that is high marks. I am very honored you said this!


Well Glenn, you have a lot of fans, and I'm one of them. It does feel good when someone compliments you, and you Glenn, as one of the best out there, you definitely deserve it.
All the best,

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Thank you Michael.
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You're welcome Glenn!
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I really like the School For Scoundrels video. The teaching is structured and the routines are excellent. Not only that, the production values are really good.
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I like Glenns routine as well. But as far as DVD's I have to agree with Bill. When I started I got the Sal Piacente DVD's. I love Sal and the DVD's are good. But the SFS is a far better DVD all around.

Whit Haydns thoughts about magic at the end of the DVD are worth the price of admission all by itself.

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On 2005-08-10 16:40, Vandy Grift wrote:
I like Glenns routine as well. But as far as DVD's I have to agree with Bill. When I started I got the Sal Piacente DVD's. I love Sal and the DVD's are good. But the SFS is a far better DVD all around.

Whit Haydns thoughts about magic at the end of the DVD are worth the price of admission all by itself.

Vandy

Thanks Vandy.

But my feeling toward production value is stuff like that is sort of like putting a product into a nicer box. I remember watching a TV special about Ernie Kovacs and how they talked about the TV technology of today and the technology of his time.

Today we have all sorts of computers to do wipes and can use blue screens to do all sorts of special effects. And these things are fun and eye dazzling but do nothing to improve the shows content.

This is true in magic and DVD video.

Having production value in a video or a DVD does not improve the routine or the way it is video taped. Or the quality of the routine that is on the video.

If I like something I do not care about the box or it's production value.

I only care about the routine and the punch ending. And how entertaining the routine is. To me the box and the production value is worth zero!
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Well, I tend to agree with you in spirit anyway, Glenn. I think that the material is the main thing. But I don't think Vandy was saying that our DVDs have better production values than others. I think (and hope) that he meant the overall quality and quantity of the material was greater.

But given two DVDs with similar values in material, I think the one that is easier to see and hear, and better organized for searching and learning, is in fact the better DVD.

We can't compete with the big companies for smells and bells and whistles, but we try to do the most professional job we can considering the limited abilities of our technically-challenged production staff--which would be me. Editing video and authoring DVDs is something I am still learning about.
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