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I am trying to find a trick I saw performed years ago at a bar that went like this. The bartender had a box of toothpicks and asked me to grab a handful of them out of the box, count them, but not to tell him how many I had. He then grabbed a handful for himself, counted them and would tell me that he had as many toothpicks as I had, a certaion amount more than me, and enough to make another amount. Please enlghten me a bit, or at least steer me in the right direction. All I really want to know is the name of the trick, anything else would be greatly appreciated.
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I seem to recall Eugene Burger doing something like this but with a book of matches.
It sounds really similar.
I don't recall the name of the effect, though.
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It is commoly referred to as "the trick that fooled Einstein". Barry Richardson has a version of it in his "Theater of the Mind" book and Richard Osterlind teaches it on either "Mind Mysteries" or "Easy to Master Mental Miracles" (I forget which one)

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Thank you for the information, I have also seen it performed with straws and stir sticks. Again, thank you for your time.
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http://allmagic.com/magicshow/closeup/encounter.html
is this what you were looking for?
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Stewart James has the best version of this I've ever seen.

There's a classic routine where you hand out one toothpick to the first person, 2 toothpicks to another person, and 3 toothpicks to a third person. You then put three objects out (for example, a ring, a coin and a button), along with some more toothpicks. You turn your back, and then ask the people to each take one of the objects. After that, you ask the person who took the button to take the same number of toothpicks they have, the person who takes the coin to take twice as many toothpicks as they have, and the person who took the ring to take four times as many toothpicks as they have.

In the traditional presentation of the above trick, you simply turn back around, note the number of toothpicks remaining, and this will tell you who has what object.

In Stewart James' version, he has a fourth person take all the remaining toothpicks. He turns around, and goes over to the fourth person, and does the routine discussed in this thread - "I have as many toothpicks as you, plus 4 more, plus enough left over to make yours equal 13" (Or whatever). In this way, he disguises the fact that he's getting the number he needs to determine who has what objects for the first part!
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I just did that effect at work with salt packets and three common items in our kitchen there. It worked great. I performed it as an over the phone thing, as I was in the other room and had to ask them how much salt they left for me, but it worked just fine. I'm reading Marin Gardners stuff. You'd be surprised at how much stuff that is going on now days was written about before I was born.....Well, maybe YOU wouldn't be surpeised...LOL
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I have been doing the Koran version for years.
I am very interested in the James version.
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