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rannie
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Its been quite a while since the last article in Cogitations. I wonder if that was the last. Is it over? Can somebody tell me?

Thanks!

Rannie
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Mito
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I got an email asking to renew---I didn't.

Oh well, I feel I got my money's worth. Just got tired of waiting for the "weekly" articles.
rannie
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Thanks Mito. Same here man. It would be nice to at least be informed that the initial subscription is over. I did not get an email. Anyway it was great while I had it. At least I don't have to check now and then for new articles.

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Alewishus
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Ya shoulda seen it coming...


A.
Sack subs, ok Ross?
We miss you asper.
Paul H
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I understand is that the new Cogitations will take shape soon but that Steve is currently being delayed by other matters. don't lose hope!!

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Paul H
vago
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I didn't renew also,

In my taste it didn't match the commercial promisses.
Sorry,

Hope to see it grow into something better.
tommy
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I did not get an email but my email provider ziplip has closed down so at the moment I have not got an email.
Anyway, I thought it was well worth the money I would have another 6 months when or if it continues. There was only one thing that I was disappointed about and that was not seeing something from Paul Chosse, unless I missed it. To tell the truth I singed up not expecting but hoping to see a video of him in action.

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Steranko
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From what I hear, Youell is moving house at the moment so its difficult for him to update.
Roger Kelly
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I too thought the first six months was a bargain. The only thing that irked me a little was the incessant free advertising that Steven got on these pages. It was quite often like watching Sky TV during the day and been interrupted every few minutes by, "Have you been injured and it wasn't your fault?!"
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I didn't really think Steven was advertising. He really just posted each update to advise that it was there. I took it more as a notification for members so they could go and get a look at the material.
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I know. That IS, of course, what was happening. But he could easily notify subscribers by a 'broadcast' email to all 'members.' That would achieve the same.

By alerting all on these pages does just that and more. You'd be naive to think that that is not 'advertising.' I know, I subscribed by viewing an 'update' here and I know others did too.

I have no issue with Steven - indeed we are asked by our host to support our 'sponsors' - their links are between all the categories on the 'front' page of the Café. (incidentally, Cogitations has dispapeared from there too!) However, there was for a while, a plethora of 'updates' from Steven. As I alluded to in my analogy above, it became a pain in the butt!

I don't recall seeing any 'updates' from the likes of The Learned Pig or John Racherbaumer et al or any of the bigger sponsors.

Anyway, just my view. But back on thread - yes, what happened?
Paul Chosse
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On 2005-07-30 08:48, tommy wrote:
There was only one thing that I was disappointed about and that was not seeing something from Paul Chosse, unless I missed it. To tell the truth I singed up not expecting but hoping to see a video of him in action.

Tommy

Tommy,

I'm sorry that you didn't get anything sooner, but I recently sent Steve several things for Cogitations. We did a "Twenty Questions" type interview, and he will be posting the first half of that shortly. In addition, one of the questions asked what items I would be contributing in the second "session" of Cogitations. I listed three items I am particularly proud of, and that have never appeared in print. Those will be coming up in the near future. I also described several items that I will do on top of my committed items, if time allows. Please be patient, I think that 20.00 is incredibly cheap for the content on that site. If all you got was what has alreay appeared you recieved far more that you get in any 20.00 set of notes, or book, that I have seen recently. I certainly got way more value than the mere 20 bucks, just from Paul Cummins' contribution. The articles by Ron Bauer were also well worth the subscription price, all by themselves, the three-part card trick was brilliant! I have a Will and Finck card cutter that I put to work immediately! I'm not going to list all the material on the site, but if you subscribed and are unhappy I think you might want to re-evaluate.

I can't speak for the other contributors, but I can tell you about my own commitments. I don't do magic for a living, and I don't receive any compensation for what I post. On the other hand, I love this craft, and I do the best I can to give back to the community that has been so good to me over the years. It is important to me that whatever I contribute be as clearly written as possible, and that the reader can learn the material from that writing. I have to live with whatever I finally allow to appear under my name. I'm also not a professional writer, so it takes me a while to get things the way I want them. Maybe I'm a perfectionist and should learn to let go of things when they are acceptable to most people. But, that seems to be difficult for me. Also, since this isn't my primary source of income, or my full time occupation, I have to squeeze the writing in between all the other things in my so-called life.

I hope you'll accept my apologies for being so slow, but rest assured that there is material coming shortly. And, if you haven't commited to a second season of Cogitations, you might want to think about doing so. I, by the way, DO NOT recieve anything for this, I have no interest in the site other than to support what I think is an excellent value and a really good idea. It is difficult for a fledgling publication to get all the bugs worked out and to meet everyone's expectations. I, for one, am willing to give Steve my full support as long as I'm convinced that he is trying his best to deliver. So far I am...

Best, PSC
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tommy
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Paul

I am sure I speak for thousands when I say we are obliged for all your help. You must realize however your many fans are a demanding lot and would love to see your work. You are so underground I think we have more chance of seeing a film of Erdnase than one of you. We live in hope however. Smile
I look forward to seeing your contribution on Cogitations, obviously, and many thanks for doing it. Thanks also for taking the time to explain your position. I could not agree more about all you say about Cogitations. I am amazed actually how low-cost magic teaching is in general. If it were not guys like you I am sure the student would be having to pay a far greater price.

Regards

Tommy
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Paul Chosse
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Tommy,

Thank you for the compliment. I don't know that I am THAT underground, but it is true that I don't have a particularly high profile. I just don't get to many conventions, and I no longer earn an income from magic, so my presence is much more subdued than it was years ago. I AM still very involved with magic personally, though. It is my primary hobby, and a great source of enjoyment. I practice daily, write for myself, share a few things with friends, post to the Café, and perform impromptu frequently. The whole thing is cathartic, a welcome relief from the stresses of daily life. I can't think of anything I've tried that is quite as rewarding. Between the mental stimulation, the pleasure of reading and research, and the fun of doing tricks for people, Magic is as beneficial a hobby as anything I can think of.

As to the possibility of a performance video, well, who knows? I'm not opposed to it, I just don't have the equipment to facilitate such a thing. I know it is relatively easy, but I haven't made the effort to find out what I need to do. There is some video, of me doing things, floating around out there, mostly friends who shot the video as a teaching aid for themselves. Maybe I can get copies and ask Steve to do whatever to put it up. No promises though...

Best, PSC
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Dan McLean
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I just received an email from Steven Youell saying that Cogitations II will feature Ron Bauer's Riffle Action Palm. That and what Paul Chosse has coming up makes the renewal cost the best bargain around.
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That what would be very cool Paul. So long as it does not impede your golf course tricks at the 18th hole. I would not like to be responsible for encouraging you to a “Display of Ability” that you might come to regret later.
Apart that we will hold you to that promise. Just Kidding.

I have fallen to the temptation myself today and put up a video at that magicvideodepot place but the good thing about video is you can just show the hands at work. From my point of view, it is good because I get some help from card guys on how to improve without being shot. I don’t do much these days with cards anyway, apart from magic but I run a game. The art does not inspire confidence in players that the game is on the square even if it is. So I keep it sort of secret and just show it to guys who know the score.

Tommy
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Samuel
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Excuse my question, but what actually is 'Cogitations'? It really sounds interesting...
Samuel

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tommy
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I am sure your kidding Sam but if not it's this:
http://www.cogitations.net/

If you mean the word 'Cogitations" I am not sure what it means.

Tommy
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Samuel
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I wish I was kidding, I really haven't heard about the magazine before.

I went on the site to subscribe, but I couldn't. I tried both of the links, and they both took me to the log-in page. On the log-in page, I was redirected to the first site when I wished to know "how to subscribe".

Any ways around this? I'll sign up presto if I can, 20$ for 6 months - and activity every week - that's well worth it already Smile
Samuel

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Steven Youell
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Calm Down, Fellas!

Here's the deal-- Cogitation Subscriptions go by content, not by time.
Although I TRY and publish every week or so, real life often gets in the
way, especially for many of my contributors. Cogitations I will be wrapped
up this week and Cogitations II will start soon after.

If you haven't been getting e-mail updates on all this stuff, the cause
is most often that you have subscribed using a PayPal account that has a
different e-mail address. That's the e-mail address I use to send update
notifications.

Now that my computer and equipment is unpacked from my recent move, things
will be getting back on track relatively quickly.

OK?

Steven Youell
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