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From time to time, we learn about moves or props under one name or another, for example, the Elmsley count or the Jordan count. These two counts have been attributed correctly to their originators. However, during my recent trip overseas, I learned the truth behind two items that have, until now, not been correctly attributed.

One of these is the Ascanio spread. The other is the Flipper coin.

I'll trace the trail of the Ascanio spread first. Later, I'll tell you about the flipper coin. Both have a common home ground. Both were invented by people from the Netherlands.
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The Ascanio Spread -- a bit of history:

This Monday, during the Heritage Day celebration of the Magic Circle of London, I was having lunch with Piet Forton -- a Dutchman who now lives in Switzerland. We got to talking about our mutual friend, Eddy Taytelbaum.

Eddy is an artist. He creates wonderful magic toys from pieces of wood, plastic, metal and paint. His skill and creativity are nothing short of wonderful. I spent a couple of weeks with Eddy when I was working on a book for Ren Clark.

According to Piet, Eddy showed Fred Kaps and Piet the MFKATAS (Move Formerly Known As The Ascanio Sprad) at a private session in the Netherlands. Fred was touring Europe at the time, and showed it to Arturo de Ascanio.

Werner Seitz posted that he had seen Eddy do the Taytelbaum spread with jumbo cards in a stage show at a European convention in 1959. Piet Forton was also there.

The rest is the history of the spread as most of us know it. So, from now on, I'll be referencing the Taytelbaum spread in future references.
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The Flipper Coin

Recently, it was posted in one of the forums that the Flipper coin should be called the Swadling coin. Maybe not.

Auke Van Dokkum was a friend of Phil Postma, who actually was the inventor of this coin.
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Werner Seitz furnished this:

For further information on the Flipper Coin and Phil Postma,
Check this out!

Eddy Taytelbaum, who is an old friend, did confirm to me, in several emails recently, what's mentioned in the above URL.

It was already created in the early 1960s, by Phil Postma, after the raw idea was published by Eddy in *The Gen*, probably in the late 1950s!
(I have a copy of that *Gen* stuffed away somewhere .)

Actually I have one of those earlier flippers made by Eddy, got it in the early 1960's..
Eddy called it the first *cruel* version of a flipper, it was without a s***l.
It was like a f*****g coin with a single *h***e* only!

Thanks, Werner!
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