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Is there a magician alive today who can be considered a modern day Dai Vernon?

If so, who is this magician and why?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Michael Ammar.

What do you think?

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I don't think there will ever be another magician like Dai Vernon. He was unique and came into the magic scene at a special time in history. His contributions to our craft have been great.

If I had to name a magician alive today who is closest to emulating Vernon I would say Johnny Thompson. The reason I am saying this is because of Johnny's wonderful cups and balls routine in which he impersonates Vernon almost perfectly. On Johnny’s “Commercial Classics of Magic” (Volume 4) he performs his cups and balls routine and it is fantastic. He really takes on the personality of Vernon in this routine. It is quite a treat.

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I don't think there is one. Don't mean to sound ancient, but is there an actor alive today who is considered a modern day Gary Cooper or Jimmy Stewart? Probably not.

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Patrick Page, Billy McComb, Johnny Thompson!?!?!?

These old guys are not nearly as talented as Michael Ammar!

I cannot think of an effect Patrick, Billy, or Johnny can perform which is better than Ammar. Michael Ammar is probably of the the most influential magicians in the last 20 years.

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On 2005-07-31 19:49, love2laugh wrote:
Patrick Page, Billy McComb, Johnny Thompson!?!?!?

These old guys are not nearly as talented as Michael Ammar!

I cannot think of an effect Patrick, Billy, or Johnny can perform which is better than Ammar. Michael Ammar is probably of the the most influential magicians in the last 20 years.

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Love2laugh, you make me laugh. You ask peoples opinions, yet when they give you their opinion, you disagree and say how wrong they are
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Most in magic are more family oriented and less obsessed with clever things. From Ricky Jay to Max Maven we do have some folks who carry on the tradition of scholarly efforts.
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I'm sorry everyone for being critical on your choices. I just have a very strong opinion that Michael Ammar is a modern day Dai Vernon.

Can anyone provide any evidence against my selection of Michael Ammar? He has been the most prolific publisher of magic videos and was even on Dai Vernon's Revelations videos. Dai Vernon said himself how amazing a magician Michael Ammar was on his tapes. I think Dai Vernon even thought of Michael Ammar as his predecessor.

I have seen Johnny Thompson's cups and balls routine and yes he does impersonate Dai Vernon's mannerisms and voice almost perfectly.

So, who do you think surpasses Michael Ammar? Who is a modern day Dai Vernon? Please provide some evidence for your claims.

Thank you,
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Pat Page thought out just about every effect much in the way Vernon did. There are reasons for everything and he is smooth. He's probably one of the smartest out there and most well rounded. McComb is a walking dictionary and encyclopedia. His magic and timing are flawless as is the way he engages an audience. If you haven't seen these guys work take the time to.

Ammar is wonderful, and a favorite of mine as well. There is no doubt and he is a very good choice for a modern day Vernon, but I still think that the others outrank him becuase of magic that they have created and given to the community. Ammar hasn't created and released many effects. The videos and dvds are wonderful but there may be one or two effects in the series that are uniquely Ammar's. The routines in his book are good but branch off of other's work.

Some of his other work such as in the book Brainstorm in the Bahamas is rather good as well.
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IF you are looking for the new "Professor" you would do well to list the qualities that make him someone to emulate. Dedication to his art, that certainly was one of Dai's qualities. Perseverance in the face of adversity, stubborness, yes those are things he exhibited. Good taste. The ability to simplify. "Naturalness", whatever you think Dai meant by that. Charisma? "The Vernon Touch"? What else?

Jamie Ian Swiss has some of the Vernon qualities. He can be cantankerous, argumentative, opinionated. But he knows his magic. He can do "the work". He's a likeable, charismatic fellow. He polarizes people. Not particularly inventive, but he has good taste. Is HE the next "Professor"? Nah...

Racherbaumer? Klause? Cervon?

Do we look for the good AND the bad? Remember, Dai didn't perform much, didn't really like to, no matter what the acolytes want you to believe...

And he wasn't much of a family man...

Never really worked for a living, but he was good at visiting folks...

I loved Vernon, he was wonderful to me, but then, I didn't have to live with him. And he changed personalities when he changed coasts. Ask the old-timers from New Yawk...

I don't know that we want another Vernon - Remember what Larry Grey said to Garrett Spencer about him, "I wouldn't take a million dollars not to have known him, but I'd give a million to never meet another like him!" Maybe one "Professor" is all we really need...

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Dai Vernon did magic professionally on and off most of his life. He performed in night clubs - hotels - Vaudeville and in fact Hardeen (Houdini's brother booked Dai Vernon). And Dai Vernon was a very successful privet party magician for Frances Rockefeller King when he lived in New York City.

In later years when he was much older after he moved out west to the magic castle. He performed less and was in what many magicians call semi retirement. But as magicians get older the less they perform full shows.

But any magician that worked the rainbow room in New York and for Billy Rose in one of his night clubs - I would say was very successful as a performer!
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I really suggest to Love2Laugh gets to a major convention and meets at least one of these legends and discovers how talented and knowledgeable they are. I had the pleasrue of meeting Billy last August in Vegas and it was the highlight of the entire week. I'm surprised the name John Carney has not been mentioned. Just read one of his classic texts and you'll see that he truly embodies everything Vernon stood for, same with Tommy Wonder. If you wanna talk about someone who is a walking encyclopedia of magic like Vernon was, you have to mention Max Maven. Any magician in the last 40 years, Max has a story about them.
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On 2005-07-31 19:48, Robert M wrote:
I don't think there is one. Don't mean to sound ancient, but is there an actor alive today who is considered a modern day Gary Cooper or Jimmy Stewart? Probably not.

Robert,
Tom Hanks is every bit a modern day Jimmy Stewart. I'm not a huge fan of Gary Cooper so I don't know his work well enough to offer a suggestion for him.

And though he would deny such an appelation, Johnny Thompson is one of a very few alive who could be heir to such a legacy. That he does a delightful impression of Vernon is icing on the cake.
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I'll go ahead and throw in John Carney.

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How about Tamariz?
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Bruce Cervon... he even talks and gestures kinda like the professor...
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