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On 2005-08-03 13:54, Jonathan Townsend wrote:
Referring to "Expert at the Card Table", EACT, by the name of it's fictitious and obviously constructed pseudonym 'S. W. Erdnase' by the term "Erdnase", capitalizing such (not even a fictitious person folks, capitalization not required) and then writing about the intent of the person.

I guess Persi Diaconis would have no respect on the Café -- Harry Riser often refers to the book as Erdnase in normal conversation. I recall the Professor doing the same thing.
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On 2005-08-01 22:10, Jonathan Townsend wrote:
I've got my bizarre act all ready and I have this great idea for a card trick. Has anyone tried turning over two cards at the same time? They are thin and I bet you could get away with it. Has this been done? I want to make sure before I put this revolutionary concept on my next DVD.

I heard Penguin are planning on releasing this on DVD for $49.99 - it's called the 'Twin Lift'. It's an exclusive. Oh, and the music is way cool.
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Arguing forever and ever on what is better, or where origination starts. Magicians being rude to new guys and complaining when a question is re asked from time to time. Those people really lose my respect.
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On 2005-08-06 15:37, Bill Palmer wrote:...I guess Persi Diaconis would have no respect on the Café -- Harry Riser often refers to the book as Erdnase in normal conversation. I recall the Professor doing the same thing.


Persi is smart enough to know the difference between calling it "erdnase" and "Erdnase"=author. For the young... cite the text all you like, and do read the text, it's rich in content. HOWEVER, it does not serve to presume upon "author" of the text. In this case the textual method of psychoanalysis is not directly applicable.

Performing flourishes and gambling demonstrations in conjuring context usually demonstrates how well folks have read the erdnase text. Sadly, those who fawn over the memory of Vernon have glommed onto the reputation of the text while missing its contents. Our Magic can help remind the student that magic is diminished by demonstrations suggesting any juggling or secret facility in manipulating the props.
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Who started this stupid thread, what a freaking moron

Just kidding, was that one on the list.

Hahah, just a joke guys, this is a good topic
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Ah what the heck, I'll tip the "Erdnase" issue.

You are supposed to be a magician. When you refer to an author not in evidence, you are speaking of a thing the way laymen speak of magic. Hence the instant loss of respect by those who clearly understand that there is no Erdnase person. Got it?
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I guess Persi Diaconis would have no respect on the Café -- Harry Riser often refers to the book as Erdnase in normal conversation. I recall the Professor doing the same thing.



OK, I give up. Who is Sinocaid Isrep?

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On 2005-08-07 00:52, flobiwan wrote:...
OK, I give up. Who is Sinocaid Isrep?


One is free to invent fictitious characters. A good literary device. When one confuses the facts and fictions on such matters... well there is a spectrum that runs from "fooled" to "deluded" to "denial of reality". One gets to pick ones position on those matters too. I for one have no problem respecting the delusions of others. The easter rabbit delivers nice baskets and Santa brings presents on occasion. Smile
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I guess Persi Diaconis would have no respect on the Café -- Harry Riser often refers to the book as Erdnase in normal conversation. I recall the Professor doing the same thing.



OK, I give up. Who is Sinocaid Isrep?



Fredd


Read the introduction to Snotalever by Nonrev, and you will know.
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I'm guessing..but should that read..Snoitalever ?

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As long as you don't expect much additional respect for a grade school gag, enjoy. Those who are in grade school and for whom this is new stuff ( joke name of EaCT author too ) enjoy the new territory.
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On 2005-08-07 00:52, flobiwan wrote:...
OK, I give up. Who is Sinocaid Isrep?


One is free to invent fictitious characters. A good literary device. When one confuses the facts and fictions on such matters... well there is a spectrum that runs from "fooled" to "deluded" to "denial of reality". One gets to pick ones position on those matters too. I for one have no problem respecting the delusions of others. The easter rabbit delivers nice baskets and Santa brings presents on occasion. Smile
When you give a character a proper name you still have to capitalize it.
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On 2005-08-14 19:45, ringmaster wrote:...When you give a character a proper name you still have to capitalize it.


Agreed Ringmaster. My issue is with those who mistake the obvious non-name for a single real person who wrote the text and who then proceed to make comment about the mindset etc of that person, who may in fact be many people including an editor or two. It would be fun and amusing for all if they were not serious about it. In literary theory this is a case of a text creating its author in the minds of the readership. A feat worthy of Umberto Eco. Again, laudable were it not in the community of magicians who are supposed to be far beyond such things.
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On 2005-08-01 20:04, Alan Wheeler wrote:
I have seen people lose respect at the Magic Café for asking simple questions and for disagreeing with the conventional wisdom and popular opinions of magic. So whether right or wrong, one can lose respect here by revealing ignorance or by questioning dogma.

alan

I don´t have a problem with questioning dogmas. It depends on how it is done....

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Well, a good way to lose respect, in my opinion, is making fun of beginners or younger members.

You were all young and inexperienced once, guys. It's all to easy to laugh, but not so easy to learn. Remember that, the next time you deride the sometimes over-enthusiastic or currently nieve beginner.

The way you respond today, could be the straw to determine if they consign their fledgling hobby to the trashcan or develop into a star of tomorrow.
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The ones I love:

- Which is the best card effects from all the times? (Why? Do you know at least one?)

- Which is the best automatic card routine? (Lazy... lazy...)

- I have this book, Which is best effect from it? (What´s up`? Is reading boring for you?)

- Where to buy the new coolest cobra-tiger-elephant white-rose-green cards made by ellusionist? (If you ask me where to learn magic, maybe I would answer you).

- Dvds or books to learn? (First... learn).

- I have cheat my friends and win them money with poker (Great for you! Thanks because now I know of who I will never be a friend).

Of course, the "how Blaine levitates?" is the best one Smile

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I don't like people earning posts by posting things like;

this has been discussed before
try the search function


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