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As long as you don't expect much additional respect for a grade school gag, enjoy. Those who are in grade school and for whom this is new stuff ( joke name of EaCT author too ) enjoy the new territory.
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... or what about people who say, 'do you like my latest avatar ? '.

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On 2005-08-07 01:30, Jonathan Townsend wrote:
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On 2005-08-07 00:52, flobiwan wrote:...
OK, I give up. Who is Sinocaid Isrep?


One is free to invent fictitious characters. A good literary device. When one confuses the facts and fictions on such matters... well there is a spectrum that runs from "fooled" to "deluded" to "denial of reality". One gets to pick ones position on those matters too. I for one have no problem respecting the delusions of others. The easter rabbit delivers nice baskets and Santa brings presents on occasion. Smile
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On 2005-08-14 19:45, ringmaster wrote:...When you give a character a proper name you still have to capitalize it.


Agreed Ringmaster. My issue is with those who mistake the obvious non-name for a single real person who wrote the text and who then proceed to make comment about the mindset etc of that person, who may in fact be many people including an editor or two. It would be fun and amusing for all if they were not serious about it. In literary theory this is a case of a text creating its author in the minds of the readership. A feat worthy of Umberto Eco. Again, laudable were it not in the community of magicians who are supposed to be far beyond such things.
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On 2005-08-01 20:04, Alan Wheeler wrote:
I have seen people lose respect at the Magic Café for asking simple questions and for disagreeing with the conventional wisdom and popular opinions of magic. So whether right or wrong, one can lose respect here by revealing ignorance or by questioning dogma.

alan

I don´t have a problem with questioning dogmas. It depends on how it is done....

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Well, a good way to lose respect, in my opinion, is making fun of beginners or younger members.

You were all young and inexperienced once, guys. It's all to easy to laugh, but not so easy to learn. Remember that, the next time you deride the sometimes over-enthusiastic or currently nieve beginner.

The way you respond today, could be the straw to determine if they consign their fledgling hobby to the trashcan or develop into a star of tomorrow.
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The ones I love:

- Which is the best card effects from all the times? (Why? Do you know at least one?)

- Which is the best automatic card routine? (Lazy... lazy...)

- I have this book, Which is best effect from it? (What´s up`? Is reading boring for you?)

- Where to buy the new coolest cobra-tiger-elephant white-rose-green cards made by ellusionist? (If you ask me where to learn magic, maybe I would answer you).

- Dvds or books to learn? (First... learn).

- I have cheat my friends and win them money with poker (Great for you! Thanks because now I know of who I will never be a friend).

Of course, the "how Blaine levitates?" is the best one Smile

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I don't like people earning posts by posting things like;

this has been discussed before
try the search function


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When you have more than 5000 posts, you aren't posting this to increase your post count, you are posting it because some unenlightened soul didn't try looking first.

A perfect example is the one recently posted in the busking forum, called Permits?

If they had searched using the word permit, they would have found the thread that they have been referred to.

Try searching on "cups and balls" just once. See what you find.

Here's one that, as far as I'm concerned, shows the ultimate in laziness.

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......30&1

I googled Yigal Mesika and found the information. I'm not going to post it on the forum. If someone wants the information, he or she can google it as well.

If you count the keystrokes it took the original poster to ask the question and compare it to the 16 keystrokes it would take to google it, this shows not laziness, but a lack of initiative.

I realize that his web site isn't on the first page. It's a bunch of dealers there, but when you find his web site on the second page, it is pretty obvious which one it is.

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On 2005-08-06 23:38, Jonathan Townsend wrote:
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On 2005-08-06 15:37, Bill Palmer wrote:...I guess Persi Diaconis would have no respect on the Café -- Harry Riser often refers to the book as Erdnase in normal conversation. I recall the Professor doing the same thing.


Persi is smart enough to know the difference between calling it "erdnase" and "Erdnase"=author. For the young...


Young and smart are not necessarily exclusive. (Not that I'm young. Nor would I claim to be smart.)

Most hobbies or professions have their own understood shorthand. And "Erdnase" is often to be used as understood shorthand for "Expert at the Card Table". And, more to the point, that isn't the privilege of some inner coterie of magic. If it's ok for PD to say it, it's ok for me to say it.

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One way to lose respect permanently is to show your hindquarters to the whole forum, leave, come back and leave almost instantly.
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Oooo.... very cutting John. And I thought you were a roll model Smile

Mind you it's happened before with the fellow in question, so no real suprises there. I think some people just get more upset/intense over board type things and need longer to chill than others.
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Those are typical! Gotta laugh!

Posted: Sep 3, 2005 11:16am
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On 2005-08-15 16:04, Jonathan Townsend wrote:
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On 2005-08-14 19:45, ringmaster wrote:...When you give a character a proper name you still have to capitalize it.

Agreed Ringmaster. My issue is with those who mistake the obvious non-name for a single real person who wrote the text and who then proceed to make comment about the mindset etc of that person, who may in fact be many people including an editor or two. It would be fun and amusing for all if they were not serious about it. In literary theory this is a case of a text creating its author in the minds of the readership. A feat worthy of Umberto Eco. Again, laudable were it not in the community of magicians who are supposed to be far beyond such things.

Sort of like that one classic episode of "M.A.S.H." about the imaginary Lt. Tuttle? (If you happened to see it.)
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"I got $10 for my birthday, what should I buy?"

Sounds like a kid wanting to spend his/her new found gain on a wise choice. Why lose respect? I bought Mark Wilson's Cyclopedia of Magic for $1 at a second hand store. A set of sponge balls at $4.95. Two decks of Bikes at Wally World for $3. Right there under $10 I got something going. A chance to guide a youngster in the right direction, yes, loss of respect, no.

No disrespect intended.
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That's a good perspective you are coming from. We all gotta' start somewhere. My first effects purchased were "Color Changing Ball to square" and "Proffesors Nightmare", and a little packet efect involving four queens. Not exactly an auspicious start, but it has led me to this point after twenty or thirty years.

"The journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step"
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On 2005-08-01 19:47, Dr_Stephen_Midnight wrote:
Try this well-worn approach:

"Hi, I'm the GREATEST in the world! I've done more for this art than any man living; YOU know it; I know it! I invented EVERYTHING and did it BETTER than anyone else! You say you invented that effect?!? Come to the convention with your videos and press clippings to prove it, and I'll bring mine to prove you wrong!
I know everything, I never lie and I'm always right! I'm a pro and you're a coackroach whose name I never heard of, you insignificant pleb!
Bow down before me!"

Don't you just love those types?

Steve



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Who's Mark?
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