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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts 
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"Middle-aged-grandma-weekend-warrior-clown" is a hilarious term!! I have usually referred to them as bored housewives. They are a plague here, too. The only thing they do worse than magic is their make-up.
How many magicians are out there? Too many for the workers and not enough for the dealers.
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BlackShadow Special user London UK 666 Posts
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My bet is there's 100,000s of guys in undeveloped countries, who have never seen a book or a TV, who can perform sleight of hand miracles with a few stones and twigs. And they worked it all out by themselves or with the help of one elder in the village. Not an Ammar Vid or a copy of Bobos in sight
 There's likely some unique moves out there waiting to be "discovered".
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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts
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Lets say there are approximately 350 Rings in the IBM and each had an average of 10 members, that's 3,500 magicians. we know there are not an average of 100 or (35,000) active magicians in those rings.
Using SAM numbers and adding them would not work because many members are members of both. So an inflated number would result. The Café numbers are not a real number because people log in under different names, log in because they are curious, and over 10,000 have one or no postings. About 3,500 have over 50 postings. This seems to be in line with the IBM Ring estimate. Many so-called magicians are just curious and after a short-lived experience, move on. Not all members of organizations are magicians, and not all magicians are member of organizations. Worldwide estimates would be impossible because the term magician does not have a universal meaning. If I just double 3,500 or say 7,000 active magicians, it could be closer to reality.
Dennis Michael
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Kenn Capman Regular user Southwestern Michigan 196 Posts
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How about this?
When I'm looking for buddies to session with, there aren't enough. When I'm in competition for bookings, there's too many.
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saxmangeoff Veteran user Moscow, ID, USA 353 Posts
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On 2005-08-28 23:39, Michael Baker wrote: I think that about sums it up! Geoff
"You must practice your material until it becomes boring, then practice it until it becomes beautiful." -- Bill Palmer
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stevenamills Veteran user 397 Posts
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Call me a cynic, but......
About 9. Oops - make that 8 since Del Ray passed away. |
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BlackShadow Special user London UK 666 Posts
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On 2005-08-29 09:05, DenDowhy wrote: Whatever does SAM, or the Café have to do with the number of magicians in the world even given your statement that the term of magician has no universal meaning? Surely one has to think further outside the box. |
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stevenamills Veteran user 397 Posts
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Nick,
I was just complaining about stupid, flippant answers to a thread I started and I just did the same thing. My apologies. sam |
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24314 Posts
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It was not a stupid, flippant answer. It was a perceptive, flippant answer. There is a difference.
"The Swatter"
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24314 Posts
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On 2005-08-28 22:55, bishthemagish wrote: I never had much trouble, myself. What is the difference between a large pizza and a magician. A large pizza can feed a family of four.
"The Swatter"
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts
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What is the difference between pizza and magicians?
I heard this question asked at a magic convention once, and someone immediately answered, "I like pizza."
~michael baker
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BlackShadow Special user London UK 666 Posts
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One fills a bold platter, the other's full of old patter
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Professor Piper Special user Somewhere, out there... 770 Posts
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I swear, Bill, Michael Baker, BlackShadow...
You, among the others, are the reason I've always loved Magicians... No matter how many or how few we are (I'm counting myself loosly here), Magicians are and will forever be some of the most creative and intelligent of all the entertainers in the world. I'm primarily a Vent. and Juggler....Both of these displines are just as rigorous and demanding as Magic, but really, honestly, neither have the need for quick thinking and humor as Magic provides. Thanks for the laugh guys...You kill even without props and sleights. Prof. Piper :juggle:
"Nemo has been found! He was on an Admiral's Platter at Red Lobster!"
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts
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...and the irony is, a juggler will usually steal the show at a magic convention. Thanks for the comments.
~michael baker
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dpe666 Inner circle 2895 Posts
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On 2005-08-29 23:15, Michael Baker wrote: That is because magic is easy...once you know the secret.  |
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts
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On 2005-08-29 23:18, dpe666 wrote: Yeah, but I grew up when magic was E-Z.
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24314 Posts
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A juggler will, nine times out of ten, walk off with a show at a magician's convention. So will a good vent.
However, at the Centenary celebration, there was this juggling troupe that was poetry in motion. They went on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on. I wish they had cut their act in half. The first 3 or four minutes was beautiful. Then it became hypnotic, then it becams DULLLLL. And then there was this ventriloquist who had a vent figure that looked for all the world like one of those "solid 'love companions' " that one might see in a sleazy magazine.
"The Swatter"
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Professor Piper Special user Somewhere, out there... 770 Posts
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Bill...
I know what you mean about some jugglers (usually troupes) who have no concept of KISS (Keep it Short Stupid)...Dazzle the audience then GET OFF STAGE! A lot of juggler's want to show you every pattern or run they can do; me, I want to show my best stuff (normally under 5 minutes) then move on to something else. As for the Vent...God only knows what he was thinking...And it might have been a real blow up dolly. Thanks for the heads up guys...Now I know what gear to bring with me when I attend a Magic convention... My juggling gear!! Prof. Piper :juggle:
"Nemo has been found! He was on an Admiral's Platter at Red Lobster!"
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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts
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On 2005-08-30 11:23, Professor Piper wrote: So this is what we're up against? Should be a steal.
The difficult must become easy, the easy beautiful and the beautiful magical.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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Take away the malcontents and there might be one or two left in the world.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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