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Unknown419 Inner circle 1321 Posts |
Adding Fuel To the Fire
Do to the fact that part of this thread was deleted I can’t tell what really went on but I’d like to say… While I’m just rambling on here that Alan Halcon’s Greek deal is absolutely GREAT and is the best that I’ve seen. Note: I’m not trying to stir things up here I have not seen Jason England’s deal anywhere so I can’t speak on it but I do hear that it’s quit excellent. I’ll be the judge of that when I see it. Please Remember My Hall of Fame Guys So I’m Not Bashing Jason is one of my Hall of Fame Guys so please don’t think that I’m putting him down in any way by commending Alan’s Greek Deal. Alan may not want me to say this but I will; IT’S GREAT. If I were going to invent my own Greek Deal of which I did at one time (many years ago after studying Darwin’s Book Gambling Scams) it would be EXACTLY LIKE ALAN’S. Why? Because Alan’s deal is what I was trying to do but I gave up on it. I did it a couple of times like my Infinity Pass but eventually gave up on doing it because there were no games in the hood that dealt with dealing with a bottom card so why practice or invent something that I would never use? Alan came to visit me while here in NYC and we (at least I did) had a great time. Is he the real deal? Yes he is and being that he Greek Deal he obviously has a great Bottom Deal as well. Many of ya’ll critique too hard on everything especially flashing fingers and can’t do the move to save your life. I have never and will never see a bottom card penetrate through human flesh so that you will have a flash less dismount so on that note there has got to be some kind of flash (fingers dropping) to say the least so for all ya’ll critiquers back off and get a life. What you need to do is critique some of those horrible basic passes that ya’ll do while switching to all different angles to hide that half a deck flash. Ya’ll have read too many lies that some magician/cheating writers have made up telling you about what to expect from us and we’re just tired of it. WE PERFORM/CHEAT BEFORE LAYMAN/SUCKERS like many of you here magicians do all the time AND THEY DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR. I repeat, THEY DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR AND TO BE HONEST NEITHER DO YOU. If you did you would know what to say but you obviously don’t. You would point out that the players at the table are layman not knowing what to look for and that this move would get the money but since you don't play and are bedroom cheaters your analogy is absolutely wrong. This is what makes most of us cheats know that you're not a real gambler with hands on experience. It might be wrong for me to say that most of ya'll magicians are horrible but to the people who ya'll show your magic tricks to, to them ya'll are the best that they seen, likewise us so stop pointing your finger all the time. Remember whenever you point your finger at someone 3 fingers and a thumb is always pointing back at you. I know what to look for and Alan’s Greek Deal is excellent and from ALL ANGLES. Would this move pass in a game? Yes it would and it has many a times and it would have passed by me but Doc? Yes I would have paid attention to the dead thumb but only because of previous things that I’ve studied regarding cheating techniques but only because of that. His Greek and Bottom Deal is absolutely silent meaning there is no scrapping noise as his card comes off of the bottom and out of the bottom (Greek Deal); my bottom deal does have a slight scrapping sound but HIS DOES NOT. It goes to show me that I need a little bit more practicing even though the people I play with doesn’t know what to look or listen for. Comparing Greek Deals If I would compare the best Greek Deals that I’ve seen I would compare Andrew W.’s and Alan H.’s. Doc, which is the best? What do you mean which is the best? Neither but if you ask me which do I prefer I would say Alan’s. Why? I can do Alan’s with no change of my grip handling. I would have to change mine for Andrew’s. Does this make Andrew’s inferior? No it doesn’t in the least. I know of a Second and Bottom Deal that’s better than any I’ve ever seen with the thumb lifting off of the top card, and can I do it? Yes and No. I could if I study it again but I can’t use it because I can’t deal the punch from this variant so even though it’s better than mine why study something that I will never be able to use except for demonstration purposes. Note: There’s not enough time in the day to study everything there is to know about gambling moves and then to go out and use it in a game, there just isn’t. My Analogy: Does it really matter how a basketball goes into the hoop if your objective is to just score a point? One may look better or more spectacular than the other but the same job was accomplished by both using different techniques. God never wanted us all to be exactly the same that’s why He made us all different. If you like Jason’s handling then do his, if you like Andrew’s handling do his, if you like Alan’s handling then do his. Our opinion doesn’t make it right which variant is the best because we all have different make-ups, hand sizes etc. If your job is to entertain or to get the money and if either of these ways/handlings can get it for you by all means do the *** thing and be done with it, all I want from you is to just try to be the best at whatever you do; we can’t ask for anything more. Oh one more thing that ya’ll should note if Steve Forte admired Alan’s Greek dealing technique and invited him to come and visit him anytime he’s in his area than what does that say for his technique. For the record how many times did Steve invite you? Inducting New Masters into Doc’s Hall of Fame While I’m here I’d like to add a couple of other members to my Hall of Fame. I’d like to add Dave Malek, Damien Neiman, Alan Halcon and Andrei (if I haven’t done so already). Gentlemen keep up the good work. Your Friend Doc |
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Yiannis Veteran user Chicago USA 349 Posts |
Excellent post Doc. Lond time, no see...
Take care Yiannis |
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halcon Loyal user 251 Posts |
Wow! Doc, I'm at a loss for words. I didn't expect that. for what it's worth, just being mentioned in the same sentence, with those wonderful technicians, is very kind of you Doc.
for the record I did enjoy spending some time with you, although it wasn't long enough. however, when I am out there, next week, I hope we can get together again. Man I have to hang in that club. Halcon |
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