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Richard Evans
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Don Alan was renowned for his Chop Cup routine and also did a mean routine with the Benson Bowl. Does anyone know if the cups & balls were ever a regular part of his act, or if he developed his own routine?

I have had a look in the Jon Racherbaumer book, but can't find anything there (there's no index, which doesn't help). There's a good bibliography of Don Alan's published works at the end of the book, but no C&B references there either.

Any info would be much appreciated.
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Richard
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As far as I know, the regular cups and balls was never a part of his performing repertoire. He did own a set of cups from Abbott's, though.
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I suppose there was no reason for the C&B to be part of his regular repertoire because his Chop Cup routine was so strong. Having said that, I'm still slightly surprised that there's not a routine on record. He did an 18-month run as Sir Dono on 'Princess Mary Hartline's Magic Castle' (famously never repeating a trick during that time) and also did the Magic Ranch series.

It would be interesting to know what sort of routine he did with those Abbott's cups.
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In all the years I knew Don, and saw him work many times, I never saw a set of cups and balls. Chop cups, bowls, but no classic 3 cup sets.
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Thanks both - now I know I have had the definitive answer. I guess we can only imagine what he might have come up with.

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I found this nice video clip of Don Alan performing his chop cup routine. I think I found this link on previous post here in the Café, but forget -- so sorry if this is something you all have seen before (I just love Don Alan). It's a video of Mr. Alan in the early 1980s performing on the TV show "That's Incredible." It's a wonderful piece .... Enjoy!

http://members.tripod.com/vidaccess/

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Thanks for posting that link.

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Don Alan had a tv show called The Magic Ranch it's on video. Should still be able to get at Stevens Magic Emporium, check it out.
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For anyone that's a Don Alan fan the is a new DVD out in the Teach In series that features his Chop Cup routine. I just ordered mine a few days ago. I think it was released in December.
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Didn't Don actually develop, or refine, his Chop Cup routine AFTER he and his wife saw Charlie Miller do the cups. Don asked her what she thought about the Cups, and his wife said 'Who gives a sh** ' Thus, he moved on to the single Cup, short, sweet and strong.
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I've always loved Don Alan ever since I first saw his Magic Ranch program of 1961-62 and later on Ed Sullivan and Johnny Carson (et. al).
Although I never actually met the man himself, I felt that I surely knew him well. I do a tribute in his honor for other magicians that encompasses the SME video in it's entirety...almost word for word...and all off the effects as well.

http://www.amazon.com/CostumeZone-DVD-Do......&sr=8-10

I get so involved with that video that I can honestly say I am able to see Martha Stevens at my right as a spectator...that's how powerful a piece this actually becomes.

Enough about the performance for now...I write for another reason.

I have done this for many years now. 4 years agao I suffered 5 strokes...I coner that in my first intro to the Café...if you care to read it, it's there for all to peruse. After my first stroke my wife uo and left me for whatever reason...I'll not go there...but I will add that she threw ALL of my accumulated magic out in the process....no clue what...made no sense. Divorced her and moved on to heal as it were...bear with me a tad longer...I'm almost there.

I obviously had to replace all of my Don Alan effects so I could continue...as well as mace, much more that I am still adding...though at 66 years old O) will probably not get back into full stage and illusion work any longer. I will still do the Don Alan Tribute, my Stand-Up MagicComedy Act and "busking" here in tghe USA and in Denmark soon as well.

FINALLY THERE... About 5 or 6 months ago I purchased a 3 inch Ball Bearng Ball for Don's final load of the Benson Bowl. I purchased said 3 inch ball from Epiphany at RnT ad Jake was ill (or whatever) at the time... jusr prior to the sale of RnT. It was supposedly a heavy chrome-plated ball... and it looked to be such and I bought a silver cloth to keep it wrapped in whle I went off on my way to conventions, etc until last week or so. Imagine my utter surpise when I checked my ball (no pun intentend) to find it covered in rust...and I do mean covered and blotchy and blackened... as in yucky yuck. Needled to say I am not the least bit pleased...oit wasn't heavy chrome-plated as ordered... but simply polished steel. That ticks me off no end... it cost me 75 hard eaned dollars for what??????? Jake and Epiphany are no longer in business and the new RnT does not have that item listed. I guess I'll have to eat the phoney plated ball and chalk it up to experience... this does not a happy camper make me. I can't afford to be out 75 bucks... especially seeing as I only perform the piece for a vert select audience...
ANYBODY GOT ANY SUGGESTIONS ????????
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Clean it with Naval Jelly. Use Chrome Polish on it. Then clear coat seal it.

I also remember Rick Johnson saying to use Tung Oil on Brass objects to prevent tarnishing. It might also work on your bearing.



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Kurt,

There is a chemical treatment you can buy that takes care of rust pretty darn well. It's called "Oxi-Solv". What it does basically is to turn iron oxide into zinc oxide. The chemical voodoo that does this is beyond me, but the miracle it performs is unbelievable.

You can order it from Dr. Tinker (Dave Laughridge), a very well known Lionel Train restorer. He's the only source of it that I know, in small quantities. You can get it directly from the maker, Oxi-Solv Inc., but they only sell it in case lots. Dr. Tinker sells it in 4 oz., 16 oz., and gallon size. Ask for this and give it a try:

#1019-0
4 oz Bottle
@ $7.00 ea

Here's Dr. Tinker's e-mail: dave@drtinkertrains.com

All you need do after converting the iron oxide to zinc oxide (you just brush Oxi-Solv on the rusted item), is to polish the ball. I use Flitz metal polish for that and a lot of elbow grease!. It will look like new.

I have a few of these steel balls in 1-1/2 and 3 inch size. I keep them stored in a "Tuf-Cloth", made by Sentry, in a plastic bag. Tuf-Cloths are available at any gun shop. No rust can form on anything stored in a Tuf-Cloth.


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Quote:
On 2006-01-22 14:06, doublelift wrote:
For anyone that's a Don Alan fan the is a new DVD out in the Teach In series that features his Chop Cup routine. I just ordered mine a few days ago. I think it was released in December.


It's not really new. It came out before as a VHS tape.

Posted: Sep 24, 2009 1:25am
Take the rusty ball bearing down to a bumper shop and have them do a heavy chrome plate job on it. Or find someone who restores antiques and does replating.

If worse comes to worst go to http://www.nashvilleplatingservice.com and ask Ron Satterfield to have it fixed up for you.
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