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hillk
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I just found some stuff at Michaels art supply call TACKY WAX it was in the candle making section and in a yellow container. It is just like the Ammar wax you get for 10.00 and it only costs 2.80 for about the same amount. hope this helps....
Cory Gallupe
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I just use tape or sticky tack. But I want to try wax, it looks a lot easier!
evolve629
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Today only at Penguin that you get the Card On Ceiling free with order I think over 30 bucks?
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IM assuming that its not Ammars product is it it seems the ad has some type of angel on it.
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Ah yes, I got an e-mail about that. did you hear the story behind it? well, here it is. I will just give you the e-mail. Read the whole thing. Its pretty cool.


Hi Cory,

We're writing today to tell you about one of the best magic effects in the
entire world, and how TODAY ONLY you can get it absolutely free.

That's because something a little strange happened yesterday when Jay Noblezada
and Erik (our head cameraman) were out on the streets of Las Vegas filming some
new demo videos. They were walking underneath the pedestrian bridge connecting
the New York, New York Casino with the MGM Grand (right underneath where we
filmed parts of Liquid Metal) when they noticed something odd... The bridge was
almost 20 feet overhead, but as they stared up they could plainly make out a
playing card (and eventually even a tiny signature) up on the underside of the
bridge.

Who was the magician who made that signed card vanish from a deck and stick so
perfectly on that unlikely ceiling?

Who was the spectator who scribbled his or her initials on the back of that blue
playing card... with a black Sharpie Marker... ?

How many days, weeks, months, or years has that card been perched up there... as
proof of the bizarre event that occurred?

Noblezada was inspired by what he saw underneath that bridge. It reminded him
of an archway in San Diego where he went to college. He performed the card on
ceiling in that archway when he was just starting out. Recently he was back in
San Diego and saw his card STILL HANGING on the ceiling of the archway SIX YEARS
LATER!

Noblezada came back from the video shoot and said, "I feel like we're not doing
a good enough job telling our customers about the 'Card on Ceiling'." He said,
"I bet a lot of the new guys out there have never performed the 'Card on
Ceiling', but EVERY SINGLE working pro that I know (including me) performs it
regularly."

By the way, when it says Hi Cory. that doesn't mean you!! hehe. I forgot to cut that out. For any of you who want to learn more about the card on ceiling tell me and Ill put in the whole e-mail and it will give you lots of info.
Joe Russell
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My mentor Karl Norman is the inventor of card on the ceiling he uses parafin mixed together with a toliet bowl wax ring and he throws in a black crayon to dye it the same color as his sharpy so he can stick it on the cap
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Cory Gallupe
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Now that's cool! For some reason I thought micheal Ammar was the creator. Guess not!
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The Tacky Wax from Michael's is great. You can get it online. 1 oz=$3 6 oz=$8

http://www.google.com/products?client=sa......N&tab=wf
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Tacky Wax is great Card on Ceiling wax, but don't you want something five times stronger and much easier to use? http://www.magic.org/6126

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On 2007-11-27 09:47, AaronSmith wrote:
Tacky Wax is great Card on Ceiling wax, but don't you want something five times stronger and much easier to use? http://www.magic.org/6126

- Aaron Smith
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AAron,

How much wax is included for the $7.95 price? And, why the herbal or scented additions to the wax? Can a person buy it "plain" (unscented)? Did you formulate and manufacture this wax or are you repackaging an existing product (and one which doesn't come unscented)?

Thanks for the info.

Mike
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Herbal Adhesives wax smells like wax... the additives are for strength and stickiness. You get two ounces of wax and a small wooden paddle that fits inside the container. Our waxes are proprietary recipes, blended right here at The Magic Depot!

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Turk
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Thanks for the information, Aaron. Its good to know that the wax will not be emitting an odor that might give away its presence.

One more question: Can the cards (that are stuck together using your wax) be separated without any tell-tale "crackling noise that some waxes seem to make when joined cards are separated? If so, that would be a god-send. (Maybe the problem is just "me". Maybe I'm just using too much wax in the first place.)

Thanks for the info.

Mike
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Most magician's wax, even the soft stuff, is hard and difficult to use. They contain beeswax, which dries in place and makes the "snap" noise you're hearing from pulling apart two cards.

Magician's Wax PLUS Herbal Adhesives is naturally soft and doesn't contain beeswax. It's super sticky, so just a dot on the back of a card is sufficient. Silent and easy to use.

I'm sure you'll like it, Mike. If you don't, return it within thirty days for a credit or refund. Sales aren't final at The Depot, but rather the start of something magical :o)

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Gordon
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Quote:


Who was the spectator who scribbled his or her initials on the back of that blue
playing card... with a black Sharpie Marker... ?




A more interesting question is how they could see the back of a playing card stuck 20 feet above their heads.
One might say that this pitch doesn't pass the sniff test.
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On 2007-12-09 16:53, Gordon wrote:

A more interesting question is how they could see the back of a playing card stuck 20 feet above their heads.
One might say that this pitch doesn't pass the sniff test.


Gordon:

I did this hundreds of times on a 30' hotel ceiling.

The management took those cards down (nice move, oh foolish ones!) but I have two cards STILL on ceilings (a restaurant and a store) after 20 YEARS!

Be not doubtful, Gordon-san! Except:

Usually the face of the card is signed, so...........hmmmmmmmmmmm.......not sure THEY actually saw that....but the trick can be done and the card can stay up for a long period of time.

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On 2007-12-09 16:53, Gordon wrote:

A more interesting question is how they could see the back of a playing card stuck 20 feet above their heads.
One might say that this pitch doesn't pass the sniff test.


Gordon,

The back of the playing card was signed and the front stuck to the top of the bridge.
"Who you are moment to moment is just a story."
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I use the tacky wax instead of double sticky tape because you can pot a bigger blob of wax on the card if the ceiling isn't smooth.
Harry Murphy
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For those who missed it, the black color was added to the wax so that it could be hidden in plain sight. Karl stuck his bit of wax right on the cap of his Sharpie. Un-capping the Sharpie gave him all the time and cover he needed to steal the bit of wax for use. I have colored mine to match a shirt button and even a tie tack (back when I wore such things1). I use flesh tone now and have it on my thumb nail (a la' Martin Lewis idea for his torn and restored cigarette paper).

I don’t know who first moved to wax as the sticking medium for the trick. It may very well have been Karl Norman. The trick was being performed (and published) in the late 30’s and early 40’s using a thumb tack as the sticking source. It was a regular feature (using the thumbtack) of Mike Ryan’s during the late 40’s through the mid 60’s (when I saw and talked to him).

At some point, for a short time, in the 60’s loops of tape were being used (and not very effectively). I have at least one pamphlet showing that method! I wonder if anyone ever made it work! LOL!!!

Geaton Bloom published a killer version of Card-to-Wall using the thumbtack method. His is more a stage version of the trick.

The card to ceiling trick has been around for a long time. Ammar came up with one heck of a clean handling for it (not much improved upon IMHO). Find a sticky medium that works for you and stick with it. Wax seems to be the medium flavor of the day. Ammar’s wax and Smith’s wax are the best I have personally used. If you are using this trick and find something that works for you, get a pound of it!
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For many years, I have used what is called, "candle adapters". It is a wax that comes in small dots on card. I buy it at candle shops in malls. It is sold as a remedy for candles that fit too loosely in their holders. It is the best I have ever found. I have not tried coloring it, but I like that idea a lot.
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I was doing this at a casino nightly and ran out of wax.
My roomate(balloon clown working the same casino) brought me some. I asked where he got it from. He found it in the box outside an orthodontist office. It is the wax they use for braces.(it was left there for kids with braces that need it after hours for an emergency) It is exactly the same as the Ammar wax. I went to the office the next day to pay them for it. I told them I was The Magician at the Casino. I did not want to expose the trick. So I did other tricks for them, and they gave me a whole case of it, it lasted until I could order some more.
And I got lots of tiny rubber bands from them for folding coins.

On the same note, my regular Dentist is a magician, and he game me a case of dental dam that is used in many tricks.

So...see your dentist regularly... he always puts me in the clown room...lol.

ACE
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