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Minimaniack
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OK OK... SO I'VE GOT A FEW EASY TRICKS TO START WITH, but although not that hard to master the trick it's self it's the patter that comes with it, part is distraction and the other half is entertainment.... so how do I learn a small routine with the jokes and parlarva that go with it, you must all have a couple of ideas to help me out... the ones I'm playing with at present is the silk and TT, the invisible deck,the coin in the bottle and the extremely hard (for me anyway)scotch and soda.. oh and I've got some of the super gel, has anyone done much with it.... (P.S.i'm not actually any good with them yet)... any help or advice will be very very welcome
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Come on over to the "New to Magic?" forum, Minimaniac, and I'm sure you'll get lots of helpful advice on how to start.
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What do you find hard with scotch and soda or were you just joking?
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I think when you are new it all seems hard. Putting together a routine seems like an unreal task. As you learn and grow in magic, you will find it all becomes easier. You will learn how to flow different tricks together to make a routine. when you are new, the best advice is to PRACTICE. Find a person you can practice on and master the trick before showing anyone else. Quality is better than quanity!!

Lance
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http://www.lybrary.com/reattached-p-250.html
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Do you know any reg card tricks?Learn some rope trick.
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(1)Learn to be your self,learn to have fun.Take one trick that you like.Like the invisible deck and find away to present it.find books,dvd or just ask one of the magician here.When find away to present it that fits you as a person, then go on to the next trick.
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Minimaniak - Hi. I think it is great that you are thinking about routines, but you may be rushing things a little bit, and as far as routines go, I think you'll find you are doing things in the wrong order. First, the rushing. Since you are just getting started, I would say not to worry about creating your own routines so much at this point. Learn to execute the tricks you have as individuals first. Learn them well and perform them for people. Friends and family are fine at this point. Stick with simple patter and be yourself. Get comfortable doing magic for people. This will give you some insights into what your performance style is. Are you funny? Serious? Mysterious? Just as surprised as the spectators at what you've discovered you can do? The tricks you have chosen to start with may have relatively simple moves, but they take a lot of practice to pull off with natural looking movements and an unrehearsed and effortless nature. Strive for that on an individual trick basis for now. ... Second, as pertains to the order of things. Yes, you could probably hand a more experienced magician an assortment of tricks and he could in short order combine them into an entertaining routine. Some may even do this to challenge themselves or inspire themselves when looking for something new. In any event, I think the best routines develop the other way around. Forget the tricks for a moment. Try to think of a routine theme, and then look for tricks which will fit the routine. This probably isn't as exciting of an answer as you might have hoped for, but you can still work on routining while you treat the tricks as individuals for now. Let the routining thought process guide your next purchase...

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Minimaniack
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Advice from the experienced is the ultimate advice whether exciting or not ...and back to the begining iwill go and spend a couple of months just practising but I will be posting the same question when I'm confident of my magic...thanks!!
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Minimaniack
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No I was not joking about scotch and soda, having bought the coins, I just don't really know what to do with them.... help!!!!!!!!!!!!11
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There is a 21 pp. booklet, Fifty Tricks with Scotch and Soda, that has a lot of ideas (um, maybe about 50). Daytona Magic has it for about $2.40 here in the US.

There is also a video that has ideas for 25 tricks. I've seen that at Stoners Funstores for $9.95 (http://stoners.com/main.php3?primNavIndex=0&mainURL=%2Fstore%2Findex.php3%3Fcat%3D370161).

Needless to say, the booklet is a better deal.
Regards,
Eric
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Minimaniack,
None of what you're doing came easy to me either.
I was pretty direct in my presentations and sometimes still am.
Nothing worthwhile is easy.
Keep at it.

Best,
Chris Miller
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On 2005-10-14 09:30, Minimaniack wrote:
Advice from the experienced is the ultimate advice whether exciting or not ...and back to the begining iwill go and spend a couple of months just practising but I will be posting the same question when I'm confident of my magic...thanks!!


I was not suggesting that you can not think about routining. Sorry if it came across that way. My interpretation of your original post was that you have the following four tricks: 1)TT and silk, 2) Invisible Deck, 3) Soda and coin, and 4) Scotch and soda, and that you wanted a presentational routine which would tie all four tricks together. That's what influenced my previous post. However, after reading the quoted comment, and your reply regarding the scotch and soda, it sounds like I might have misinterpreted what you were looking for. I still think my previous post is good advice if you define routining as how to combine a series of tricks into a satisfying congruent presentational package. However, I believe you are looking for ways to individually present each of these effects. Is this correct? With the exception of the TT, all probably came with some good basic ideas. What don't you like about the original instructions from a presentational point of view? With specifics in mind, perhaps the Café could better offer suggestions. Performance style should be unique and comfortable for you, though.

Chris
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You're getting some great advice!

Like all these things, it's best to learn to walk before you try running. I would thoroughly recommend getting a book. I particularly recommend "Magic for Dummies", despite the rather awful name. Unlike many other books, which just feature a collection of tricks, there's some great advice on how to present tricks, what to say and what to do. There are some hidden gems in the way of tricks in that book too.

I would start by taking one trick and presenting it exactly as the book or instructions say. Finding a "performance character" and creating your own patter will come later, after you get a feeling for what works and what doesn't. Don't be tempted to show off your new trick too early. You need to practice until you can present the trick in your sleep, and that includes the patter.

When you practice your trick, make sure you practice what you're going to say as well as what you're going to do together. That will help you synchronixe everything correctly.
Minimaniack
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WOW..slightly taken aback by the response,i never expected this much support and you all seem to have been through similar (or still are Smilecheers jaz) .. I go on other forums of different subjects and have not recieved such enthusiasm, cosermann I'll chase the booklets up,foucault you're right, I did try a trick too early and made a fool of my self so the book you mention may well be very apt, and magicalmystiflier ys you're right about my start up collection and I did want to try and do the patter as working on my wizardry....but I seriously need to watch others if I can find affordable dvd's (any idea's?)... really impressed with the way you all help out, you made a convert out of me, maybe one I will be in a position to return some advice........thanks!
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Foucault
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Minimaniac - have you seen this thread:

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......&113

Some great recommendations for DVDs and books for beginners. Again, I would really recommend "Magic for Dummies", because it's the best book I've seen that combines the tricks and performance advice for beginners to magic.
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