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I've been using Richard's Digital Feedback for a couple of years now and it's a shame it's being put on wider release as not many performers I know use it currently.....but that's just me being selfish.

I'm interested to see what changes Richard has made as the original works just fine.
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Could anybody be so kind and create a review please?
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Unsure what you meant by this. Perhaps it was my comment about the haunted key. Let me rephrase it. By spin, I meant Richard's take. Forgive my words. I won't say anymore but it was how he presented it I liked.


Candini,

Yes, I was only trying to say that when you said you liked Richard's "spin" on the Haunted Key, I thought was a funny (and, I'm guessing, unintentional) double-entendre!

--Josh
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Just put my order in for the MMToo/Final Answer combo deal from Richard's site, and man it's gonna be hard to sleep until I get those into my greedy little hands...Living in Canada, I sure hope they arrive quickly? "Hey Brian you're looking a little ill, are you feeling ok?" "Yes, I'm fine, I just haven't slept in days- waiting for my Osterlind videos to arrive" Smile

Have a great day folks,
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Just a little thought while reading the posts here:

I recommend to everybody Darvin Ortiz´s essay: "Next-book syndrom"....;-)
In my eyes it should be mandatory reading for every magician.

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I was glad to hear that Richard was going to be shipping Monday.
Richard, congratulations on an overwhelming presale.
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Candini,

Yes, I was only trying to say that when you said you liked Richard's "spin" on the Haunted Key, I thought was a funny (and, I'm guessing, unintentional) double-entendre!

--Josh
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Josh,

Now I get it, sorry:( As you can see by the times of my ravings here, I miss too many hours of sleep.
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On 2005-10-23 19:05, calexa wrote:
Just a little thought while reading the posts here:

I recommend to everybody Darvin Ortiz´s essay: "Next-book syndrom"....;-)
In my eyes it should be mandatory reading for every magician.

Magixx


Oh yes... I stopped buying every new effect and book that was out there because I realized that the people who create the dvds learned from sources and books which are classics and almost everybody got them.
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Can't wait for these DVDs!!
I really enjoyed the previous 8 DVDs!!
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On 2005-10-24 05:17, RickDangerous wrote:
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On 2005-10-23 19:05, calexa wrote:
Just a little thought while reading the posts here:

I recommend to everybody Darvin Ortiz´s essay: "Next-book syndrom"....;-)
In my eyes it should be mandatory reading for every magician.

Magixx


Oh yes... I stopped buying every new effect and book that was out there because I realized that the people who create the dvds learned from sources and books which are classics and almost everybody got them.


Of course, almost all magic is derivitory. The idea is to create effects that move forward enough to merit recording in a book or video. This can be through presentation or expansion of method. If this weren't so, we would still be learning from "The Discovery of Witchcraft."

Richard
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Of course, almost all magic is derivitory. The idea is to create effects that move forward enough to merit recording in a book or video. This can be through presentation or expansion of method. If this weren't so, we would still be learning from "The Discovery of Witchcraft."

Richard


Sure, I agree. But it's important to really sort out what you buy and not let your own creativity die.
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Rick,

And there you have hit upon a very, very important point. I think what I look for in a new magic book or video series is more about what the artist does with the ideas than the routines themselves. I try to understand how the performer "thinks" and why he does this or that. Sure, if the routine is good, I will work on it and then see if I can personalize it for my own use. This is what I would hope others would do with my material. Sure, what I say and how I do things is what is good for me, but I want people to watch these routines and say, "I really like that idea. I can do say this instead and maybe use this sleight instead of the one Osterlind uses and it will be perfect for me." You might even think about changing the effect itself or the props. And finally, you might see something that solves a problem with another routine entirely. I am hoping that once everyone who orders these videos gets them, they will not hesitate to ask questions about the material so that we can all have some valuable discussions.

I would like to add that it would be fun to talk about the situations that arose during the filming of MM2 and some of the circumstances of the shoot.

Richard
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Richard

I'm definitely looking forward to reading about the situtations which arose during the filming and some of the circumstances.

The more I can learn about the other aspects of performing (audience management, recording, sound and lightning, etc.), the more comfortable I'll be with my performance.

And I'm convinced that I also will have a good laugh. So, please Richard, tell us Smile .

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Hi Richard;

After reviewing these excellent DVD's, one question haunts me.
Who exactly is Mr Holmes???
:)

Best-
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On 2005-10-25 09:35, Richard Osterlind wrote:

I would like to add that it would be fun to talk about the situations that arose during the filming of MM2 and some of the circumstances of the shoot.

Richard


Then let's do it! Smile
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By the way... guess it's the same good old L&L audience as in every video Smile (from Banachek to Osterlind to Sankey to Daryl)
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On 2005-10-25 15:44, RickDangerous wrote:
By the way... guess it's the same good old L&L audience as in every video Smile (from Banachek to Osterlind to Sankey to Daryl)


Gotta love that hockey-hair John-guy.
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Richard,

I was only responding to some of the post here that read like. "I buy everything from xxx, without looking at the ads". In my opinion this is the most stupid thing someone can do (and it happens not only in the magic world, but also in the real world). I think the most valuable thing people can do is look at think from a distant point and make a judgement based on their impressions. Those guys, who "buy without thinking" don´t have any impressions. And that is a pity.

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For me - at least - there is a problem with Richard's DVDs. His persona and presentation are so strong and so viable that I have to watch them -- then put them away for a while before I go back to specific effects that I want to work with.

If I do not do this -- I find myself not only emulating this master craftsman but prone to steal lines, moves,dress and begin to mimick Richard rather than developing my own takes on the material. While it would be a help in making money faster by stealing whole hog (something I am sure is NEVER done by honorable magicians lol) I feel that I do not want to be a clone of any sucessful performer -- and that presents a conundrum.

Richard is successful and polished and a great teacher. In many crafts emulating the great teacher is a very basic step -- but to get in lockstep is not my style. Therefore -- on DVDs - View once, make notes. Put them away for a while (I usually need a week or two to get over Richard's powers.) Then use your notes to view the one or two pieces you want to work with and jog ONLY to them, work them until you have them in your own style.

So, in my opinion -- I remain defenseless in view of great performers. This is the only way I can do things -- without dreaming that I am Richard Osterlind's peer because I work his material in the same way he teaches on the DVDs.

And for me to directly steal the material -- I would have to turn my act into a comedy of errors or a performance tragedy.
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I think the reason Richard is so good is that he is so natural. People tend to believe what he is doing is real.
Its not like he is a performer playing a mentalist. He is a mentalist playing himself.
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