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james-harrington
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On 2005-10-24 20:09, james-harrington wrote:
I do yes... A lot of magicians seem to be saying pretty bad stuff about Blaine. Is it jealousy? I think so. Laymen loved his close up magic, isn't that the most important thing? Do you think he cares that magicians want to put him down?! Of course not!

David Blaine is one of the very few magicians who can walk up to a group of people and leave with them thinking he did real, no-fooling, Son of God magic. So if you don't like his presentation what does that matter? Laymen like it, it works and people ARE affected emotionally by it.

All he has done is removed all the crap from his performance, his focus is solely on the effect. There are no complicated plots, no bad jokes, just "hey look, I'm going to show you something amazing"... and it is amazing and that is what he wants to entertain with!

I will admit a few years ago I did put David Blaine down to everyone who asked about him. I was green with envy because I knew I could do what he did but I wasn't famous... but he is famous because he was the first magician to go on tv where the focus was totally on the effects and the way they affected his audience. Laymen respect him and love his magic... therefore so do I!

James


Well I'll post it again as no one seemed to read it! Or at least dignify it!
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What makes you think that nobody has read your post? Just because there has been no direct reply to it doesn't mean it has gone unnoticed. And if you want to be shown a little dignity with a reply, then I suggest that re-posting exactly the same post the very next day, doesn't show an awful lot of dignity on your part, and is less likely to ellicit a reply. Although by posting this I guess I have proved myself wrong.
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On 2005-10-25 06:00, ziatro wrote:
What makes you think that nobody has read your post? Just because there has been no direct reply to it doesn't mean it has gone unnoticed. And if you want to be shown a little dignity with a reply, then I suggest that re-posting exactly the same post the very next day, doesn't show an awful lot of dignity on your part, and is less likely to ellicit a reply. Although by posting this I guess I have proved myself wrong.


well done! slightly off the point of the David Blaine thing but well done for putting me in my place. I know it's not your job or your business but to take it on yourself to be vigilant against people like me certainly takes a lot of dignity.


James
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On 2005-10-24 04:14, tommy wrote:
Standing on a pole or sitting in box is not amazing people with "magic". It amazing that you think it is.


Wow, you managed here to combine an ad hominem attack with post hoc ergo propter hoc reasoning in the space of two sentences. Well done, and thanks.
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On 2005-10-24 07:05, DaveM wrote:
Like him or not, he brought magic out of perpetual "geek-dom". In one swoop he made magic "cool".

Dave


IMO, this is the biggest contribution DB has made. He made magic cool again. But, there are still lots of current day magicians trying to defend this ancient idea that magic is not entertaining on its own. They think that you must tell bad jokes to entertain people, when the magic itself has all the the entertainment value and humor built into it already.

The one thing I don't like about Blaine is the use of camera tricks and editing. Doug Hennig and David Copperfield never used them. It's like cheating.

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David Copperfield did not use camera tricks! I think that depends on how one defines camera tricks.

I think it is the camera tricks that is the thing I really I don't like.

The other stuff is not so bad: If you can make people think that it is great magic to sit in a box then you are surely a real magician. Smile
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I like him for the same reasons most hate him!!I like his straight portrayal of the effect his "look look watch" type comments. I think it adds to the effect to just have someone amaze you an that's it.Nothing but a effect is fine with me .
I saw somthing different in his stunts than most of you .The stunts to me an the build up to them ,the training ect. I saw as a base by which the the effects where built around.The stunts are not magic to me but it was like a chorus in a song somthing to come back from.My 2 cents
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His first two specials were wonderful. I like his style. I think he's hysterical, actually. He has an incredibly wry sense of humor that, for my money, makes him very entertaining to watch. And I like his approach. It's like he's saying "Can I show you something so amazing that I don't even know what to make of it?"

I think he takes himself a little too seriously now. Did you notice how his voice changed over the specials? It got more and more monotone and creepy in the later specials. He kind of became a parody of himself.

But who knows. Maybe he'll come back with another good show.
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He does do magic but to me he's not very entertaining.I think his presentation's suck but what do I know.I haven't had several magic special's on tv.
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He helped bring magic back so I like him for that but I don't like the way he preforms.

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You guys don't give david blaine enough credit. because of blaine people are more willing to see magic when you ask them. because of blaine many magic businesses such as ellusionist and penguin magic have become very successful. blaine has shown us what magic is all about. I don't see anything wrong in his skill because his double lift and controls are just fine. he can do hot shot cut and simple switch pretty *** well too. he may not be extremely gifted at sleight of hand but he gets the job done. and his last few specials (namely vertigo and frozen in time) have had some pretty amazing effects that fooled me. sure there are more skilled sleight of hand artists there but few as 'cool' and as good at audience management as blaine. I love blaine!
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LOVE EM.

Extreme pioneer period.

Last great thing to hapenn to magic. ANYONE today was directly or indirectly affected by him......(magicians)

I will agree his presentation seems to get a little ****ing boring after a while....but who cares? It's David blaine, he gave us enough gifts already.
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I have nothing personally against him, but I just don't like being asked to do that david blaine trick
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Ok I don't like him. His personality is really tough to stomach, his skill is not quite as high as everyone seems to say.

He was great for magic in general, keeping it in the mind of the general public so for that he gets some respect.

For those of you who bash anyone who dosn't like him as old fashioned guys repeating the same lines and such, go see Doc Eason. Go see Eric Mead, Scotty York, and on and on. Mac King, Michael Finney. If you are saying that all of these guys are just repeating the same lines your simply not listening. Bill Malone, almost any of the Chicago close up guys. ALL of whom do some great magic and fantastic presentations. So that arguement is idiotic.

Mr Blaine has done more than anyone to keep magic in the public eye in a time when the Worlds Greatest Magic specials were anything but, and Copperfield seems to avoid the TV for some reason. Again for this he gets respect from me. But don't attack those who came before him and are his contemporaries, just becuse you don't like their style.

After all is that not your complaint about the Blaine detractors?
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I think David Blane is the best zero personality, no talent, self working magic trick guy in the business!
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I have to agree with mr mystic Smile

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Whether we, as magicians, like David or not, I don't think he really gives a rat's furry arse, because his spectator's like him, and the money he has made speaks for itself! (All the way to the bank)
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On 2005-11-04 08:38, mrmystic wrote:
I think David Blane is the best zero personality, no talent, self working magic trick guy in the business!


That's why Paul Harris sessions with him.

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David Blaine went out on a limb and somehow became famous while also making magic cool. A lot of young magicians got drawn into magic because of him. While doing only simple tricks, he found a way to get huge reactions from laymen and all home viewers. I'm pretty neutral on David Blaine. All cons aside and whatever you may think of him, he's now rich and a household name; any questions?
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I used to hate David Blaine. Always acting like he was high or drunk, strung out on one thing or another. I used to take it as an insult in the way he presented magic. Is that how we are to come across to our spectators? I know I don't want to come off that way. In my opinion, that would scare people away. I know I would turn tail and run if I saw someone like that coming in my direction. However, after reading his book "Mysterious Stranger", I now have a new found respect and admiration for the man. He has been through so much in life and has fought tooth and nail to get to where he is today. To overcome such hurdles and roadblocks in life to becoming a household name in magic is quite a feat to accomplish. I now look at his presentations and character in a new light and I could not be happier for the guy. My 2 cents.

:cheers:

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