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Miker
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Hello everyone.

I am new to the Café and am interested in performing Gospel Magic for my church. I have already used a Dock Haley Svengali deck for a couple of presentations to children both in the States and also abroad in the Ukraine. These were very well received! As a result, I wish to expand my resources to allow for more presentation of the Gospel. I am currently adding:

D'Lites (Light of God - Christ is the light)
Prof's Nightmare (Using a change bag with this one. 3 ropes = sin. Jesus takes sin away.)

What I am asking for is any realy good patter routines that would work well with these as well as any other "tried and true" routines that I can add inexpensively.

Thanks for your insight!
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With prof. nightmare. Use the different length ropes to describe someone with a little sin. Your audience might relate this to a pastor. The medium rope to a family member with an "average amount of sin". The long rope is equal to much sin, like Hitler or a serial killer. But God sees everyone for what they really are, He sees us all the same--just a sinner. In God's eyes any sin seperates us from Him. The Bible says all have sinned. Only Christ's sacrifice can remove our sins. Even if we have much sin, a few sins or even one sin (make 3 ropes different lengths again).

How did he do it? He dies on the cross and shed His blood. The change bag is red and therefore represents His blood (red like blood). That sacrifice allows for God to cover our sins. He doesn't see them cover in Christ's blood (put ropes in bag). As far as He is concerned, when we accept Christ our sins our forever forgotten---just gone!!!!! Show the change bag empty.

I have never used this before but off the top of my head it seems like it would work and play well. Equally important it is Biblically correct and visually represents your message well.

I hope this helps.

Are there any other magical props you have and might want to use?

Curt
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Miker, welcome to the Café. What other effects do you do that you want to insert the gospel?
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Welcome Miker Professors Nightmare short rope =stealing a dollar from mom's purse medium= shoplifting long= robbing a bank. Sometimes we think some things aren't as bad as others. But God sees all sin the same. Sin is sin 73 Donnie
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Miker,

Good to have you with us here on the Café.

Here is a routine I use with the Change Bag:

Have about 30 slips of paper that are blank. Have one slip with a star printed on it. Fold each of the slips of paper individual. Place them in the bag. Show the one with the star and mention that each child (or adult) will pick out a piece of paper. State, "The one who picks the star will be chosen to help me."

Put the star in the bag. I mention, "K eep your paper a secret until the end, as what you will be asked to do is really special.

Have the pieces of paper selected. At the end, say... "Alright, the moment you have waited for. When I ask who has the star, I want you to raise your hand and say, "I've Got it!!!"

Of course, when I ask, "Who has the star?" Everyone kid or adult that has picked a piece of paper raises their hand and shouts, "I've Got it!!!"

What do you need help with? Sharing the love of Jesus and how Jesus wants to chose all of us!

Change bag makes the explanation of the workings of this effect unnecessary. If you need more explanation, PM me.

I have gotten good reactions from this one.

John
Miker
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Thanks for all of the replies and welcomes. I appreciate the different routines that I have seen here. I realize that there are usually 3-4 uses for a single effect based on the message you wish to convey. Thanks for all of your insight.

magiccurt: Thanks for the routine for the Prof's Nightmare effect. Unfortunately, my change bag is black inside and out and not red. I will keep an eye out for a red one. My routine is very similar but I like the addition of the red bag to show the blood of Christ covering our sins.

RevJohn : Thanks for an additional use of the change bag! I will definitely add this one to my rep.

tbaer: I am thinking of addidng a spoon bend effect to demonstrate faith. I am also looking at the trick with the dots on each side. (I can't remember the name of it.) I would also illustrate faith with this one. Besides - It is a fun trick to do!

Donnie W: Thanks for the patter idea on the Prof's Nightmare. I also see you sign your posts with '73'. Are you an amateur radio operator per chance?

Thanks again everyone!
Miker
RevJohn
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Miker,

I think you hit the proverbial nail on the head: For one effect there are so many different applications. And each one of us here on the Gospel forum would put a different twist on it. That is the great thing about getting all of us together.

Gospel Think Tank.. Woo Hoo!

John
magicurt
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The dots trick is called "what's next". You can find it almost anywhere.

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I use a hotrod for for the wordless book application. The one side that is all red I emphasise "without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins".
Miker
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Magicurt: Thanks for the info on "What's Next." I am going to pick up this trick very soon. I understand that the Tenyo version of this trick is rather expensive. Is there another "brand" of this trick that I could consider? Is it as good in quality as the Tenyo?

tbaer: What is a hotrod, (other than a very fast car?) Smile I am not familiar with this one. Thanks!

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Hot rod is a stick with colored jewels in it. You use a paddle move to change the jewels to a solid color. Often to match a spectators selection. There are many versorns of hot rod. Your magic shop (brick and mortor or online should be able to answer your whats next question as well as give you several hot rod options.

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Magicurt, thanks for the explanation of hotrod.
Joe Howard
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The Andre Kole 3 Ball illustration is a good routine.

http://www.andrekole.org/3-ball.html

It's not as magical as one would think, but it makes the point pretty clear. I like it as part of larger show. The small version is big enough for most shows.

I used to produce an ear of corn from some silks ( I used a "This" from hank Lee), to open my Gospel Show. "He who has ears let him hear".

Tom Ogden had a 20th century silk routine for Gospel shows. You needed 2 Blue Silks and a yellow. The yellow would turn into a lemon and appear between the 2 "True Blue" Christians. I believe the routine was published in the old Magic Magazine that Tannens published in the 80's. (Not to be confused with Stan Allen's "Magic".)

Don't forget an escape where you are "freed from the bondage of sin".

Joe H
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Just about anything you do/have can be converted to a Gospel theme..
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Miker, I see that you are relatively new.

2 suggestions (which you may know about by now) would be to....

Browse through this topic's "archives" - you will find a wealth of information.

Also, the search function here is excellent if you are looking for info about specific tricks or applications.

All the best to you.
My ex-cat was named "Muffin". "Vomit" would be a better name for her. AKA "The Evil Ball of Fur".
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I like using Droodlers(that is what I heard them called). They are just pictures, of Words, Numbers, Letters, which say something, then the last one, I made something, then turn into a Cross or Jesus.
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