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bunnydoctor
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Hi, I'm new to the forum and card magic.
well, starting out a couple weeks ago, I had a great time learning all these new things starting from royal road. after a while tinkering with some of the sleights, I hit a snag... I couldn't quite visualize some of the moves that I was supposed to do.
so my first idea was just to buy a whole bunch of highly recomended dvds from this forum... wow... $$$$$$$$$$........ I compared my royalRoad to the dvds and I fainted. its impossible for me to afford these dvds at $30 a pop...

so the question is:
if there are any poor card magicians out there, is there a free or cheaper way to learn more? is there just a website with some tutorial videos?


oh, btw, I found one good method is that card college is available for borrow at my local library... except vol 1 is missing =(



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I don't know if this helps, but you could try a bit harder and save your money. Use your imagination. Try to imagine how the stuff in Royal Road is supposed to look like. Try to look at the tricks from a spectator's perspective. While experimenting, you'll learn a lot and you will develop your own style and your own interpretation of the material. Remember, DVD's are relatively new in magic and all the best and most famous magicians have learned from books or from personal instructions by other magicians. If you really master the magic in Royal Road, perform the stuff for normal people, and igore all the DVD's for a while. You'll not only save a lot of money (you could spend it for other great books though), you'll probably also be way ahead of 90% of all the other card magicians out there.
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I learned from books and got a lot of the sleights OK by practicing in the mirror until the moves looked deceptive.
I will say this. It really wasn't until I saw others performing some of the stuff that I realized how good some moves could look.

If you don't know any magicians, going to magic conventions and clubs can help.

You might also try Magic Video Depot to see how others do things.
I'm not sure exactly where but some magician sites and online shops also have videos you can watch.

Good luck,
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Many of the best card books are inexpensive new, and dirt cheap used.

Check these out:

  • The Expert At The Card Table
  • Card Manipulations
  • More Card Manipulations
  • The Encyclopedia Of Card Tricks
  • Expert Card Technique


That's my "essential" list. It includes lots of good tricks, most of the standard moves, and will run you under $60 for the lot (new!).

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There is a nice way to learn from Card College (both vols 1 & 2) in addition to the CC books. This is the version of CC on a CD. The author worked with Chris Wasshuber and made video clips of all the sleights and moves in the first two volumes of CC. Each vol is $45, which is more expensive than the book, but you do get the book and the video clips together on a CD. I like this approach very much. Here's a link you can check out:

http://www.lybrary.com/card-college-p-66.html
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I use to go to barns and noble and spend the entire day reading all the books on magic that I could. If you like you can do the same. you can also join a magic club or hang out at a magic shop where magicians will show you lots of magic, and if you're lucky you can get them to teach a thing or two. Just remember that the knowledge of magic is out there for free you just gotta look ... you only pay for props.
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Find people willing to sell their old dvds

I know guys on this site sometimes sell them for as little as $5...
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Check your local mall. Their bookstores will usually have some books on magic so you can go in there with a deck of cards and sit there reading the books. I've done that before.

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You are bringing up two separate issues. One is the issue of learning magic inexpensively. The other is the necessity in your case of needing some visual help with the moves.

The list that luvisi mentioned is excellent for inexpensive source material. The Dover paperback volumes are excellent and cheap. But much of this information is outdated and will give you some bad habits. If I were you I'd save up my pennies and get the Card College ebook. That gives you some videos of the moves, as well as the most up-to-date, comprehensive information available in one collection. Kaufman's Basic Card Technique is also a good resource.

Once you learn the basic sleights, you'll find that you need the videos less and less as a crutch. You can learn way more information from a book than even the best DVDs. Go through the Card College volumes, keep tuning into the Café, and eventually you'll get a sense of what your next steps should be.

Good luck!
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Scorch: Could I trouble you to mention what material in the books I recommended is outdated and some of the bad habits they promote? They were my primary sources in my youth, so I'd be curious to know if I picked up any of those bad habits.

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Maybe if you attend a local IBM or SAM. I'm sure there are magicians that will teach and lend you some of their stuff.
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The "Web"---cheap, easy, and very visual---always gets a big response
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bunnydoctor
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Thanks for the advice guys!
I'm saving my money... for some books
maybe I should just make a video website of all the sleights as I learn them... would that be unethical? just helping other magicians.. who just want to learn a few tricks

anyways... ill try to look for more inexpensive ways...


hop on!


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luvisi
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Oh yeah. You might find it worth your while to visit http://www.practicenotincluded.com/

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bunnydoctor
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Hmm thanks. pictures work good too... I'm not good at imagining swiggly lines that look like hands..and cards..



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On 2005-10-29 13:28, luvisi wrote:
Oh yeah. You might find it worth your while to visit http://www.practicenotincluded.com/

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On 2005-10-29 13:03, bunnydoctor wrote:
maybe I should just make a video website of all the sleights as I learn them... would that be unethical? just helping other magicians.. who just want to learn a few tricks


I don't think you should be thinking about that yet...

good luck with learning though.
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You can get VHS versions of many older magic teaching videos for between $10.00 and $20.00 because no one is buying VHS any more. If you need video to learn that's one way to manage it on a tight budget.
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