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Profile of tenofclubs
I am studying the Erdnase color change but the only refrence I have on it is Oz Perlmans DVD, Born to Perform, which doesn't go much into detail on tips and gotchas, angles etc. Just hoping y'all might have some pointers.


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Hey Christian,

When the deck is held horizontal the angles are best, even if surrounded. Tip the front end down a bit for better visibility.

Sources for the Erdnase (aka Houdini) Color Change can be found in:
"The Expert at the Card Table" by Erdnase.
"Revelations" video tape Vol. 6 by Vernon. Likely the book too.
In the book "Carneycopia" under Side-Pocket Transpo, there is nice technique.

I have done this in a circular motion at times by angling the swithed in card left and sliding over the heel of my thumb for the change.
Tough move for me when my hands are too dry.

An Advanced Café search should turn up more on this as well.

Good Luck. Hope this helps.
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Hi, I suggest you give Christopher Williams a PM, or check out this thread to see his variation http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......1&15 , Chris posted on this thread and gives a link to him performing it, its the version ive used ever since he showed me and I highly recommend it, and you two have very similar names, lol.

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Giobbi's Card College vol.3 has a nice variation and the instructions are explicit. Good luck! Smile Smile Smile

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Not to mention Jat Sankey - who seems to use this move on every dvd.
And in every trick he has developed.
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References can be found in Card College Vol.3 and the Ellusionist DVD "Crash Course 2".

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There are many places suggested, and I do have my version, which all can see on the link provided my jamie. If I can find my cmaera, I will create a tutorial on the ins and outs of my version and send anyone who wantsit, a link to it

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