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Edmund_Fitzgerald
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I have used the Fournier marked deck. It is very good. I like the feel of fourniers as well. But fournier cards seem to attract attention because they are non-standard.
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In the UK, only Waddington bridge size cards are 'standard'. Horrible...
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Expertmagician,
Thanks for those explanations. Yes, those techniques are in play, but as they are part of the general rinting of the card, they are "perfect" (well, I mean, the color and the pattern are flawless and very well embedded into the regular back design.)
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On 2005-11-02 15:53, tommy wrote:
I am not asking the secret of the Ultimate Marked Deck but is the concept new? What makes it better than others? Could you mark your own deck with the method or is it a secret ink?


Just picked up one of these this afternoon at a lecture by David Stone. It is basically the Ted Lesley or DeKram marking system.
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In fact with this deck "Ultimate" you read directly on the back the value and color of the card. Very easy to read. That's the difference with the Lesley mark.
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On 2005-11-06 02:03, el diams wrote:
In fact with this deck "Ultimate" you read directly on the back the value & color of the card. very easy to read. That's the diference withe the Lesley mark.


I find the suit value mark on these a little hard to read myself.
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I use it a lot of time and I read suit and value quickly. But yes the suit is a little more difficult.
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I got one of these in the mail from Paris this afternoon. I think it's quite good. I certainly prefer it to the Boris Wild Deck. However, it's kind of expensive. They want American dealers to see them for $30.00 What do you think, guy? Would you pay that? As a dealer, it's hard for me to be subjective, but I'm leaning toward NOT handling it because I'm afraid they would be a very slow mover at the price. Even though it's a good product.

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Purchased mine at a David Stone (NWROF) lecture as well for I think $25.
I'm very much a beginner and keep it handy for impromptu mentalism.
Though I'm careful not to confuse it with the deck I use for "Card warp" or any signed card routing.
My novice impression is that it is worth $20-$30.
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I think Hocus Pocus now carries this deck in the US for those who are interested.

p.s. I have no financial interest in either this deck or Hocus Pocus
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Hocus-Pocus says:
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The Ultimate Marked Deck is the first marked deck printed by the U.S Playing Card Company. The mark itself is incorporated on the design of the back (bicycle rider back 808-R Premium). The mark will instantly reveal the card's number and suit. The magician can instantly recognize the hidden mark allowing him to identify any chosen card's number and suit at a glance.

Well... wasn´t the Boris wild MD "THE" first one printed by the USPC?

Just got a little confused...


BTW,

BWMD is great.. a little "slower" than easier-to-read versions, such as Lesley´s, but great indeed.
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Ted Lesley's deck still has my vote for the best marked deck. I have been using it for years.
With my bad eye-sight it is a much better choise than Boris Wild's deck.
NOT saying that Wild's deck is bad, but Lesley's fits my needs better.
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Funny, I can't read a Ted Lesley marked deck or the Borris wild marked deck without putting on my reading glasses. But, when I can see the marks, they are easy to read....I feel safe as long as my audience does not know about using the "riffle test" to catch marked cards.

That is why I opt for juice or luminous. The marks can be read from several feet away. In addition, since I am not close to the cards people (magicians) never suspect that I may be using a marked deck. This is because most "professional" pre-marked decks have small marks. In addition juice and luminous cannot be detected by the "riffle test" which fools those who think they are "in the know" Smile

I think that some effects which allow your audience to handle the cards from several feet away can be very disarming when juice and luminous are used.

That is my 2 cents.
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On 2005-11-21 08:33, ludmer wrote:
Hocus-Pocus says:
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The Ultimate Marked Deck is the first marked deck printed by the U.S Playing Card Company. The mark itself is incorporated on the design of the back (bicycle rider back 808-R Premium). The mark will instantly reveal the card's number and suit. The magician can instantly recognize the hidden mark allowing him to identify any chosen card's number and suit at a glance.

Well... wasn´t the Boris wild MD "THE" first one printed by the USPC?

Just got a little confused...


BTW,

BWMD is great.. a little "slower" than easier-to-read versions, such as Lesley´s, but great indeed.

The BWMD came out last summer and it is indeed the first Bicycle marked deck printed by the U.S Playing Card Company.
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That what I received on my mail from Magic Dream:

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Hello,

Many thanks for your interest in this new product !

Just to make things crystal-clear and to avoid any confusion with the other marked decks available on the market, here are a couple precisions : the Ultimate Marked Deck is the ONLY marked deck in existence with the marks directly "incorporated" (i.e. DRAWN) into the original USPC Bicycle Rider Back design. This means that you only need to READ the marks (just like you would watch a picture) to instantly know the value and suit of the card. To make things even more simple to understand, I have included a couple sample cards on the link below.

http://www.magicdream.fr/bicycleulitmate.php

I hope it will clear things up!
All the best form Paris,

Jean-Marc GAHERI

Jean Marc Gaheri is one of the creators of the Ultimate Marked Deck.
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Thanks for that, I think I shall invest in this.
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I think that I will be picking up a couple of these as well! I think I'll be able to see them without my glasses -- gotta love getting old!

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It would be great if they would sell you three or four at a time. It makes it hard to incorperate the deck into your act. I used to do a few effects with a marked deck, but worked out ways to do them with a stack because of the time wear on a maked deck of cards. Always looks bad to work with a deck with worn or dirty edges. Don't want to get stuck with having to rebuy or remark every week. Expecially if they cost thirty bucks. I guess they could produce them on those plastic cards poker players are buying. Those cost at least ten bucks and do last, but you can't even get a good fan out of most of them. In the end I know some great effects that can only be accomplished with a marked deck, and reading marks for some of my favorites (spcetator as magician by ted lessley for instance,) is easier than doing all the false shuffles and handling a stack.
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That is why I prefer to mark my own cards. The cost to mark my own is about $4 per deck, so I can use new decks frequently using juice or luminous. In addition, I can read juice or luminous from a distance with or without my reading glasses.

But, these cards look good for a variation of the Wild and Lesley system.
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I find it odd that you guys, who show your face and use your real name, admit on a public forum that you use readers. What if your fans read this? Will they not think this guy is cheating! I use "cheating" for want of a better word.

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