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I've been performing a killer effect with the UMD that derived from the DeKram deck from years ago:

PLOT: Deck is presented to the spectator and they are asked to look the cards over and shuffle thoroughly. The spec is asked to cut the deck to approximately 2 equal halves and asked to further choose one pile, and the other will be the Magician's.

Spec is then asked to copy the Magician- Magician cuts to a random card at their pile and looks at it and remembers it, and then places it to the side face down. Spec is asked to do the same and remember their selection.

The spec is then asked to lose their card in their pile, and shuffle them thoroughly - and the Magician does the same. The spec and Magician then trade piles, and spec is asked to try to to use their intuition to locate the Magician's chosen card and the Magician will try to do locate the specs chosen card.

Magician places one card to the side face down and the spec does the same. Spec is asked to name their selection, and then to turn over the card Magician's card.

Magician names their selected card - which is shown to match the specs selection!

I don't know anything about the history of this treatment but it goes over REALLY beautifully - especially with the Ultimate Marked Deck. Good luck back tracking any of this too. Very fun stuff.
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That's a great effect.
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On 2010-10-28 00:39, saysold1 wrote:
I've been performing a killer effect with the UMD that derived from the DeKram deck from years ago:

PLOT: Deck is presented to the spectator and they are asked to look the cards over and shuffle thoroughly. The spec is asked to cut the deck to approximately 2 equal halves and asked to further choose one pile, and the other will be the Magician's.

Spec is then asked to copy the Magician- Magician cuts to a random card at their pile and looks at it and remembers it, and then places it to the side face down. Spec is asked to do the same and remember their selection.

The spec is then asked to lose their card in their pile, and shuffle them thoroughly - and the Magician does the same. The spec and Magician then trade piles, and spec is asked to try to to use their intuition to locate the Magician's chosen card and the Magician will try to do locate the specs chosen card.

Magician places one card to the side face down and the spec does the same. Spec is asked to name their selection, and then to turn over the card Magician's card.

Magician names their selected card - which is shown to match the specs selection!

I don't know anything about the history of this treatment but it goes over REALLY beautifully - especially with the Ultimate Marked Deck. Good luck back tracking any of this too. Very fun stuff.


That's a really, I mean REALLY good routine.

Btw, someone also recommended me Predicta, I don't even know what that is.

What's the main difference between SUM Deck and UMD? I know what an UMD is, I just want to know about SUM.
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On 2005-11-17 20:45, Dennis Loomis wrote:
I got one of these in the mail from Paris this afternoon. I think it's quite good. I certainly prefer it to the Boris Wild Deck. However, it's kind of expensive. They want American dealers to see them for $30.00 What do you think, guy? Would you pay that? As a dealer, it's hard for me to be subjective, but I'm leaning toward NOT handling it because I'm afraid they would be a very slow mover at the price. Even though it's a good product.

Denny Loomis


Dennis - I may be an exception but I have bought two of these so far - One directly from the Parisian shop and the other from.

Yes indeed, the price is a tad high - but these are Bikes and the markings to me are NOT the same as the DeKram - they are much better. Being Bikes makes this deck 100% more invisible as a MD to a spec - which to me justifies the price. Since USPCC is no longer allowing changes to the back design in the future (correct me if I am wrong on this) then these Ultimate Marked Decks are a wonderful value and will be much rarer 10 years henceforth.

Will these sell? Well you are in sales... The reviews and quality are very strong. The Blaine decks are a much better value - but they aren't Bikes. Will a spec care? Probably not. But will these sell? I would recommend carrying them as there are many strong reasons to pick one up now rather than being ****ed off years from now that you can't easily buy them again. My 2 cents.
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I've collected a pretty good collection of "reveals" over the years (ie, Tricycle deck box, Sharpie that changes into a card, dog tag that changes into one of two cards, a bruise that reveals a card, a tattoo reveal, etc), so I just have about twelve cards together in the middle of the UMD that all have one of these reveals ready to go. Then you try to get them to take one of the twelve cards as you spread the deck, sort of like a classic force with eleven outs. If that doesn't work, there's always a folded prediction in the Mystery Box or Lightening Box, using an in**x (NOT an MCF, at the price of this deck...), or just go into a trick that doesn't require a specific card. Anyway, this deck is a pretty bombproof way to get across an impressive effect.
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Saysold - That routine is very similiar (if not the same) to a Wayne Dobson one in his booklet 'Special Effects'.
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The one saysold put sounds like Do As I Do on steroids tho. I love it! I gotta get one of these UMD.
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And very much like "Diplopia". Jan
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Check this out...

The Magic Depot is now showing that the ULTIMATE MARKED DECK is now ***discontinued***

Huh? No way...rue? I mean I know that USPCC won't allow back design changes anymore on the 808's but I just didn't imagine that these would start "disappearing" so soon?

If true I would still grab a few extras soon as Penguin still has 'em.

http://www.magic.org/store/product_info.php?products_id=5742
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Ouch, that's guick. I have to grab one of these soon then!
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I just received a sad email today from the Magic Dream store in Paris, creator and maker of the Ultimate Marked Deck:

"Yes it is true unfortunately, they will no longer be made. Thanks for the nice comment.

Have a nice day,
Clement

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Not having seen this deck, is there a huge advantage over the Lesley system?
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I'm not that familiar with the Lesley system but here is an old link...

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......orum=109

The system that was created for the UMD matches perfectly with the back design, and so is pretty much invisible unless you know where to look. The marking are not huge so those with poor vision may have trouble.

The new David Blaine cards are also great (and a super value for the $ and the quality), but UMD uses 808 Bikes which makes them pretty special - and they will not be around forever apparently.
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Well, you can save yourself a bunch of grief and just get Pete McCabe's recent marking system.

Mark normal bikes -- and it's 20 bucks. It's far better than a single deck, IMHO.
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I keep hearing great things about Pete McCabes system. Worth checking out if you don't mind doing a little work.
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I'm just wondering if I want to spend $25 for the pre-made version. Funny you mention McCabe, I just came across that a couple of days ago and looked interesting. I think I might go with that for the versatility of marking multiple decks in both colors. Thanks!
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On 2010-12-24 09:32, saysold1 wrote:
I just received a sad email today from the Magic Dream store in Paris, creator and maker of the Ultimate Marked Deck:

"Yes it is true unfortunately, they will no longer be made. Thanks for the nice comment.

Have a nice day,
Clement

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I just confirmed again that the Ultimate Marked Deck **will no longer be made in 808's** - so they are available (still) at some dealers while supplies last.

Magic Depot just responded that this item was discontinued some time ago and will no longer be available.
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Thanks for the heads up, Saysold.
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On 2010-12-26 20:11, saysold1 wrote:
I keep hearing great things about Pete McCabes system. Worth checking out if you don't mind doing a little work.


What's great about McCabe's system -- apart from the very clear marking system itself (better than the UMD, IMHO) -- is the effects he includes. Lots of interesting effects -- well worth the $$$.

BTW -- the UMD book is available and also recommended. Not sure if they'll still produce the book, but it's worth snagging if you're able to find it.
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Does McCabe's system require us to do the markings by ourselves?

Between Boris Wild's and UMD, I think I have to go with UMD. Boris' version is nice but for some cards (royal cards), the markings (somehow) are more visible. They would be printed very close to the frame and for some eagle eye spectators, this is an easy spot on. I haven't used the Boris' deck with live performance so this is only my opinion but not based on experience.

I've seen UMD and I think it's more hidden as every single marking will be within the frame. However, Boris' has another advantage, the markings don't stay in one spot *winks*
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