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bunnydoctor
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Just took a $60 investment on CC1&2 and ID...
any tips on how I should tackle these books?

does ID involve any setups?
thanks for all the help....
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Why don´t you start from the beginning and read until the end?

By the way: what is ID?

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Iam assuming you are talking about the Invis*** D***. No, no set up - one of the best card tricks there is.

I suggest just working through, deck in hand!

Need any tips, feel free to pm me.

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There are some sleights that as a well-rounded card magician, I think you just have to know: DL, controls, f****s, palming (unfortunately for me!), glimpses, etc. and these are all well taught in CC 1 and 2. However, I do not recommend working straight through them. I think you should learn the "basics" and beyond that only work on sleights that you need for a trick that you want to perform. Doing otherwise will quickly lead to your feeling overwhelmed.

CC2 has a large, interesting section on "Theory" which should be useful to nearly any magician. Even if much of it is understood intuitively, it's nice to see it written down on the page.
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Bunntdoctor,
When I was young and foolish, I did young and foolish things... Like...
I would do the ID with the included patter.
I no longer use an ID, only because I don't want to use the same old patter, and am not smart enough to come up with anything better.
Having said that, if I were to do it today, I would do the following.
Have the deck throughly shuffled. Show the audience that I was reversing one card in the deck.
Start from there.
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One of the best uses of the ID is to use it as an out when another trick goes bad. I usually try to save an ID effect towards the end of a routine for that reason.
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Thanks for the advice guys.. I really want to work on my sleights... its just that the ID deck was just too cheap to pass up...
and I wanted a WOW ppl before I can perfect my card tech

gotta have SOME fun... ^_^;..


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On 2005-11-06 01:57, bunnydoctor wrote:
Thanks for the advice guys.. I really want to work on my sleights... its just that the ID deck was just too cheap to pass up...
and I wanted a WOW ppl before I can perfect my card tech

gotta have SOME fun... ^_^;..


bunny phd


Play it up I say. Why not use the ID and the included patter? People love it, there's no reason to not use it nor to change the presentation, as long as it works.
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John, I must disagree. The ID is FAR too strong to use simply as an out if it all oges wrong. Done correctly, it is a phenomenal effect.

And besides, as an out for what? 'Oh, the card didn't come to the top of the deck - instead it is face down in this other deck'(!?).

Bunny, work on a presentation that suits you for the deck, and practice until you have the handling perfect. Then, go out and seriously astonish people.

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There's nothing wrong with what you did bunnydoctor. Follow the advice given and save up for Vol.III after you go thru the first two volumes. You might finish reading the first two volumes, but you'll never retain everything. These books are meant to be "savored " like some expensive vintage wine which gets better with age if you know what I mean. Take your time and save up for the next volume as it too is very "tasty". But all work and no play makes for a boring time...so feel free to treat yourself to some eye candy every once in a while to break up the monotony. There is a lot of magic out there to learn but one bit of advice...don't too caught up in Gaft card magic. Concentrate on the sleights but most of all...HAVE FUN!!! Good luck!! Smile Smile Smile

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Sjdavison, I guess you misunderstood me. I said nothing about only using the ID for an out. I usually save an ID effect for the end of a card routine for a couple reasons. One reason, it can be such a strong effect and the other is "the out" that you mentioned. Never had a card trick go bad?...lost your break?...somehow manipulated wrong card?..when this happens and you need to produce the specs card...an ID finish can bail you out of almost any mess up AND make them think you planned it that way. Hope this was more clear.
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And as far as "this other" deck is concerned. If planned properly with a little misdirection...there is no "other deck" involved. This use of the ID was brought to light to me by serious working pros such as Denny Haney so I would say it has merit.
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Hmmmmmmmm...
that's an interesting take on the ID effect...
life savers... maybe ill just have to think up some interesting patter...

anyways, the order hasnt come in yet... cant wait to bust out the books and start reading...

thanks again for all the comments!


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John,
I agree.
I never had the need for another deck. Then again, I only used it in stage shows.
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John,
I agree.
I never had the need for another deck. Then again, I only used it in stage shows.
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