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Shalin
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I recently purchased a set of the empire golf balls to try our ball manipulation and
I noticed that the balls seemed very slick. I have dry hands, so its a bit of a problem to palm them. I use sortkwik to help and it does fine for a while, but it wears off pretty quick. Also, the gimmick wants to stick to the ball almost too well, and it is sometimes difficult to perform the move. I know Fakini makes some very nice sets, but I do not know if I like manipulation enough yet to spend the money on them. I bought the empire set to see if I like them, and I do, but I would still like to practice more with these if possible. Any suggestions on how to keep the gimmick a bit more loose and make the balls grip a little bit more?

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I also started with the Empire multiplying golf balls and I ran into the same problems you did. The dealer who sold me the balls showed me a "get ready" move to help separate the gimmick. Even now, when I use my Fakinis, I still perform this "get ready" move.

Also, I find that if you wash the balls in warm water and dry them out as much as you can, ithe extra little bit of moisture helps keep them tacky. Eventually, though, you will want to upgrade to a heavier set of balls with some extra tackiness built into them.

Hope that helps

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Shalin
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That "get ready" move sounds useful. Where could I learn this move?
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Hiya, Shalin:

I find that a bit of glycerin, applied -- not to the balls -- but to my hands, improves the tack immensely. As to the get ready, I don't seat the sh**** fully onto the ball, and find this works nicely.
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The "Get Ready" is simply a matter of discreetly lossening the gimmick a little bit before producing the ball.

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The Empire Golfballs are smaller than Fakini Golfballs, making them hard to handle unless you have small hands. For good grip, Cornhuskers Lotion may help.

You might want to try sticking a tiny circle of card stock inside the shell, to help make it easier to roll the ball out. You'll want to experiment to find the right diameter for the circle of card stock.

Another inexpensive set of Multiplying Balls are the Multiplying Sponge Balls. They handle quite well. They may only last a couple of years, but the price is great - easy to replace at that price.
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On 2005-11-07 09:09, Alan Munro wrote

Another inexpensive set of Multiplying Balls are the Multiplying Sponge Balls. They handle quite well. They may only last a couple of years, but the price is great - easy to replace at that price.


I use the multiplying sponge balls in my kid shows and they are fantastic. Easy grip and show up nicely.
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These days, I use white Fakini golf balls, but I also incorporate two of the old empire balls into the routine for color changes. It makes for an interesting (and affordable) routine. Smile

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I was thinking of buying some silicone bouncy balls from my local toy store to use with color changes instead of fakinis. (for now at least) Do regular old bouncy balls work well with these routines? I am using golf balls, but then I suddenly change one into a bouncy ball. Does it kind of take away from a uniform routine?
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Are there any published routines for the multiplying balls that anyone is particularly fond of??
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How does the size of the empire golf balls compare to the 1 3/4" fakinis? I plan on getting a set of fakinis, but I'm not sure what size to get. I have the empire golf balls but I find that they are a little bit small and hard to see when you have deeper audiences. Any thoughts on what size is best for you (considering your hand size, ease of manipulation, and effective visible distance)? Thanks!
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On 2005-11-11 13:20, Shalin wrote:
I was thinking of buying some silicone bouncy balls from my local toy store to use with color changes instead of fakinis. (for now at least) Do regular old bouncy balls work well with these routines? I am using golf balls, but then I suddenly change one into a bouncy ball. Does it kind of take away from a uniform routine?




Bouncy balls will be fine for color changes. Another thought is to check pet departments for the soft multi-colored golf balls packaged as toys for cats. These are very easy to manipulate and do look like golf balls (dimples and all) AND they're very inexpensive.
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On 2005-11-13 14:36, Frank Starsini wrote:
Are there any published routines for the multiplying balls that anyone is particularly fond of??

Tim Wright's routine is the best that I've seen. It's available on video.
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On 2005-11-13 21:49, biff_g wrote:
How does the size of the empire golf balls compare to the 1 3/4" fakinis? I plan on getting a set of fakinis, but I'm not sure what size to get. I have the empire golf balls but I find that they are a little bit small and hard to see when you have deeper audiences. Any thoughts on what size is best for you (considering your hand size, ease of manipulation, and effective visible distance)? Thanks!


The Empire balls are a little smaller than the 1 3/4 inch fakinis. However, I use both types of balls in my routine. The yellow empire balls are strictly for the odd color change.

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I have a set of Empire Golf Balls and I like them. They're my first set though, so can't compare them to anything else. They do handle well for me, though. But I can't really understand them; they don't look as elegant as a solid ball (without dimples), however their yellow color makes it impossible to really sell an audience on the golf theme. Any thoughts on this? This is my biggest concern with this set.

On another note, I believe the Empire Golf Balls have a diameter of 1 5/8 inches. So they would be slightly smaller than 1 3/4, or 1 6/8 inch balls. However, the difference seems to be only 1/8 of an inch.
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I describe the yellow Empire Golf Balls as "miniature golf balls in bright yellow so you can find them when you hit them into the windmill next to you" or "bright yellow golf balls so you can play golf in Michigan even in the snow".

I like them myself. The sponge balls are too soft for me. Had a set of hard plastic "practice" golf balls, but they were hard to handle.

Wish I could find a set of 4 yellow balls to tie together and produce as a finale. BTW, if anyone knows where to get 4 singles, PM me, will you? Thx
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An amazing concept.

Cordially, Jacob
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Check your sporting goods store (Big5) for practice golf balls that looks just like the empire balls.
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For all you non-golfers, yellow golf balls are considered Winter Golf Balls. Diehard Golfers that play year round in all the seasons including Winter snow, use colored balls so they can track the ball in flight and the snow. Yellow balls are Winter Golf Balls. Although, I am sure that is not the reason Empire used that color for the Multiplying Golf Balls, it was probably for visibility while on stage.

Anything put on the inside of the shell will kill the great magic trick of the visible ball through silk trick. Instead of messing the shell up, just learn to "break" the ball and shell prior to production. It is a magic playing card term, a get ready, as you will, obtaining the "break".

Washing the Empire Golf Balls is good advice. I note that there is a white film left behind from the molding process that should be removed before using the Empire Golf Balls. This release agent used in manufacturing is not needed any longer to manipulate the Golf Balls.
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I bought a set of the Empire balls to see if I wanted to invest some time learning the multiplying balls....and I think that I do. I find the Empire balls very light and hard to control, especially with my dry fingers/hands. I assume that a set of Fakinis would be heavier, and have a tackier grip. Would I be correct in that assumption? I would probably go for 1 3/3 inch Fakinis.

Just wondering.

Mark
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