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Ron Crumley
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Based on the complexity that Eddie Joseph applied to creating his effects, no doubt if he had lived longer he’d have invented computer programming. Premonition is an example of that depth of his mental application.

I appreciate the feed back from café members who experienced positive reactions in real world performances. However, based on the necessary detailed workings, it’s not an effect for everyone. After the first read through of the print out, I admit I put it aside for a while before deciding if it was “right” for me.

After weighing in the details and, even though it undoubtedly performs as written, I’ve decided not to make the investment. (Also, I don’t always wear the jacket necessary to accomplish the handling)

With positive responses to Eddie Joseph’s Staggered, I’ll continue to perform that minor miracle and leave Premonition for others to enjoy.
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The description originally posted for Premonition is not entirely accurate. There is a gimmick, of sorts.

I worked out a version of this that required very little mental calculation, showed it to Ted Lesley, and he told me that his method was simpler. In truth, Ted's method was simpler FOR HIM! Smile

After all, Ted memorized the combinations of all the locks in the assisted living facility where he spent his last months. He was a whiz with numbers and rapid calculations.

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Hmmm ...
it took me by surprise to see this thread "come to light" again.

People put their "nickle in" and a great debate follows.
Which goes to show, you can't put a good man down ... or a good card effect for that matter.

However. I will say this. For the card man starting out. Or for the mechanic who's missed this school of thought. You will not go wrong to enlighten yourself to the genius behind this effect.

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Check this out!

http://trickshop.com/premonition.html

A very good effect.
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Wow Kjellstrom...
I checked the website....that's the item alright and at $4.95 it is a steal.

an absolute MUST ... and you get 2 routines with it ... the intrigue goes on!
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I use a memorized stack for this routine, my own twist. And it works.

I worked on a cruiseship/ferry between sweden and denmark longtime - I did Premonition every single show. It was a good effect for that kind show.
The bartender in the bar in the entertainment room was amazed by that particular routine: Premonition. He told me that he was watching like a hawk but he couldn't see "anything".
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It was a very expensive manuscript. I think it sold sold for $5 in the '50's ...equivalent to about $50 today, might even have been $10...and back then you didn't have that much discretionary loot.
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No doubt that Premonition is a rock solid killer...

On those occasions that I do mentalism with crads, it's my closer...doesn't get any stronger or simpler!

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I did this effect at my cousins 30th birthday some years ago.
Many people in the audience was freaking out by this effect.
Om my god and how the ^^^^ did he do that - FACES !!!
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Thanks, Mats, for pointing out that Trickshop sells the Premonition manuscript. I've just downloaded it and am very pleased to have it. I owned it as a kid in the 1960s, but loaned the instructions to someone and never got them back.
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It is my favorite mentalism effect so far.It is not for everyone as stated above but it is a go getter.
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The effect is sold here:

http://www.trickshop.com/premonition.html

but this line in the description I believe is not true:

"At no time does the magician touch the deck."

any feedback??
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On 2009-08-30 14:31, pmc magic wrote:
The effect is sold here:

http://www.trickshop.com/premonition.html

but this line in the description I believe is not true:

"At no time does the magician touch the deck."


any feedback??


Well, once he sets the deck out for use in the effect, he does not need to touch it... Although he will probably touch the deck when the effect is over... Just to put it away...
Pretty good effect overall... It has been a crossroads effect for many years... A lot of different performers have different takes on it... John Born has some interesting variations for example.
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The best version that holds to the original effect of Eddie Joseph's is Stan Loberstein's "Premonition Outdone" the effect is available from Stoner's Funstores, email Dick Stoner at dickstoner@dickstoner.com , it is not on their web site at http://www.stoners.com It is much easier to perform. The manuscript is available from Abbott's if you want the original. Very stong effect.

Mike'Gordon'Miller was to put together a book of all the Eddie Joseph material he has given to magic magazines, and that Abbott's Magic Co. sells in booklet form. Unfortunately, Gordon has fallen short of his promise and has not been working on the book for 20 years. He is retired now from Abbott's, but says he does not have the time to work on the book.

Being no one knows the name of the Eddie Joseph any longer. I don't think the book will ever be completed. To bad he has some unique ideas.
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Abbotts carries Premonition and also Premonition Outdone ...
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On 2009-08-30 20:57, joseph wrote:
Abbotts carries Premonition and also Premonition Outdone ...


ABBOT's is the "Magic CAPITAL of the World". Do they mean Capitol?
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On 2009-02-08 20:38, Kjellstrom wrote:
Check this out!

http://trickshop.com/premonition.html

A very good effect.


Anyone have this version and the Richard Mark version? How do they compare? Same thing? I have the Richard Mark version and it may be good enough.

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PMC Magic,

The line "At no time does the magician touch the deck" is completely and 100% accurate. I perform this routine. I use 3 spectators in the audience to arrive at a completely random card (color, suit, value). I also use a nerf ball tossed into the audience to locate the first spec. That spec that chooses others to help him/her.

When the card is determined, I throw a cased deck of cards on the table, and they join me on stage. I don't touch the deck again.

1. SPECTATOR takes deck out of case.
2. SPECTATOR then looks through all cards for theirs, and it's not there.
3. SPECTATOR counts cards slowly to find 51 cards.
4. I reach into my pocket, and out comes the selected card!

Strong? Uhh, yeah.
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I used to combine Premonition with Bob Kings impromptu Brainwave deck. It was a very powerful thought of cards accross effect.

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I have a question about performing this effect: doesn't having the spectator look through the deck then counting 51 cards take a long time. What do you do to keep the performance from losing momentum for those who are watching?
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