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I need help! Is there any way of setting up your IT so that when your making an object float you can move your hands all around it? Smile
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I'm fairly new here so I don't know about etiquette..thus I'll be conservative until further notice. The hookup you are looking for is extensively covered in ANY dollar bill levitation pamphlet (cheapest)/video whatever. So the answer is "yes", there are ways that allow you to move your hands all around the floating object.

oh one more thing, while an ITR would make it easier to access the IT (the hookup you're interested is covered in the instructions that come with the ITR) , the reel is not necessary, Michael Ammar does it extremely well without ITR, just IT
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I recommend John LeClair's book on the subject. Once accustomed to the hook up, you can comfortably wave your paws about and around the floating object. Oooh, and a killer haunted deck. Me likey! Anway, the book comes highly recommended, he also has a video, and I'm sure a cheaper route, as suggested above, could give you the info you want to achieve the same illusion.

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have you done this effect much? How long did it take you to stop breaking the thread? How did you get comfortable with it? I was think about just using a ITR but do you prefer the LeClair over this?
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i would think nothing beats the ITR in terms of thread accessibility et al..the problem is cost (30 for the original sorcery ones) and maintenance..if you want one get 'em from ll publishing, no shipping charge and they're good...get the micro one, not the mini mini craps.
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Flourish Dude:

I should clarify that I do not use an ITR, that I still feel as though I want an ITR for some different effects, and that I base my recommendation of LeClair's method on my exclusive use of this method and the recommendations of other magicians...(Eugene Burger for one).

I never had breakage problems, after about 2 weeks of practicing with getting everything right. To this day, I never break anything unless doing the Haunted Deck (and very rarely, what with the experience..)

The problem for me was not the IT, it was the the failure of ummm... other stuff. "What's that thing?"

Practice gets rid of that too. My original problem probably was that I wanted stuff flying up and all over the place, when I should have just done a convincing little levitation.

So, to answer, it took me 2 weeks to stop breakage. I got comfortable with the method by always making everything the exact same way. I'm still not too great at stealing and ditching. Oh! and I started just bringing it to class with me and taking it on the train, so I got used to moving about with it, and sensing it.

However, I can't really say I recommend it over ITR, since I don't use one. I'll end up having and using both, I'm sure.

So crap, I don't have any answers other than practice getting the feel. And after that, no real breakage problems unless the IT is getting old from a million uses.

At least that's my story,
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"So, to answer, it took me 2 weeks to stop breakage. I got comfortable with the method by always making everything the exact same way. I'm still not too great at stealing and ditching. Oh! and I started just bringing it to class with me and taking it on the train, so I got used to moving about with it, and sensing it. "

Ye but see, with an ITR you simply don't have to worry about any of that..it's just right in there waiting to be used. I heard Kennedy's Zwebs are also great.
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How can you possibly use IT with the haunted pack?
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Frank, LeClairs video shows how.
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oh! ok. I just have his book. I wonder if it's in he book. I don't think so.

Is it the same setup Ammar uses in the ETMCM video just done with IT?
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John LeClaire me think?
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I'll post a vote in favor of the Leclair Animator.

I bought an ITR years ago when they first came out and liked it pretty well. But I personally prefer the level of, um, tactile control I get with the Leclair Animator; also, I just prefer the way the hookup works.

Leclair Animator took more practice to handle IT management and hookup, but a lot less practice to eliminate wobble, at least for me.

But I think it's all largely a matter of taste, experience, performing needs, etc--as with any number of other things in magic (card forcing, spellbound routines, cut and restored rope routines, palming, finger position during the french drop, 10" vs. 12" linking rings, Nikola vs. Aronson system....).
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I know his name is John I was telling Frank it is in his (John's)video sorry for the confusion.

How do you handle the storage of the W_X end while you do the other routines so YOU yourself don't break it? where do you keep it on a button or ?As you can see in my pic this is the coat I wear for my gig. I don't wear this all the time (day to day) so where are some places to "hook up" I know the upper body connection I am looking for the other end.
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In my opinion, the best method BY FAR of performing Haunted Pack is through use of Mesika's loops, and the best method BY FAR of floating an object is also by use of the Mesika loops in the floating finger ring effect. Why? Because both employ entirely straightforward handling, they use ungimmicked objects (normal deck of cards and normal borrowed finger ring), the loops are near invisible, and you can perform the tricks any time because the loops are worn totally out of the way of everything else in a position where they can't be broken and they're easily set in place until you need them.
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Larry what about the comment about the breakage with the loops?
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Flourish dude, yep, they can break, but so can any type of IT. I've never had one break, though, while in actual performance (I have broken a bunch of them while practicing multiple times) because I use a loop once when I'm performing and then I throw it out. Some would argue that that can get real expensive. But that's not a concern for me because I use them professionally and the cost of a few broken loops a night is inconsequential compared to my fee (not that I charge a ton, but $10 a night in loop expenses is insignificant).
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Flourish dude, if you are righty, just put the ITR inside the left side of the jacket (right about heart's height)..the wax retracts automatically to the cilinder (or close to it)..very easy to access and safe once you release the wax ball.

Larry D. why not just make your own loops?
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Mr. Hyde, because I don't have a source for the exact same material Mesika uses and what's commercially available is too thick. Do you have a source?
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Larry, which commercially available thread did you purchase?
I find the IEThread sold by most magic dealers not too bad at all (check out my Invisible Elastic Thread thread for a brief review of the product)..PM if more info needed, i know of some other sources.
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Mister Hyde,
that is where my ITR is now I was talking about the LeClair set up.
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