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phedonbilek
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Exactly... Mr Doomoo must have found another method...

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On 2005-11-30 23:17, Mercury52 wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks this looks like Williamson's Striking Vanish, but with a glass instead of a wand/stick/pen? Correct me if I'm wrong...

Kevin

THANK YOU. I thought I was the only one as well. That method actually worked for me. I'm not saying that that is how Infusion is done, but that method works and achieves the same effect. The Snapple bottle thing, however, woldn't work with this method. I think the opening is too small... *sigh* I was so depressed when I saw this on the E page. "It melts into the glass..." *sigh*
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On 2005-12-10 17:24, phedonbilek wrote:
Why "please people"??? If you cannot make a connection between the striking vanish and the move here, then you don't know what's the striking vanish.

Phedon



I am implying by my statement that it is obvious that a version of the Striking Vanish is being used. But in point of fact... I do have an alternate method.
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I think Mr. Doomoo meant "It's just the striking vanish, please........", referring to the people making a fuss about it.
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On 2005-12-11 00:05, ImperfectTruth wrote:
The Snapple bottle thing, however, woldn't work with this method. I think the opening is too small... *sigh*


Not true. I used a plastic water bottle (smaller opening then a Snapple bottle) and a dime - and got it to about a 25% success rate after only about 30 minutes of screwing around with it. With enough practice, I am sure I could get that percentage up. The dime and water bottle looked particularly impressive to me when it worked, because of that small opening. I think it added to the impossibility of it and eliminated the possible guessing of the method - although I might never be able to get the success rate high enough to actually show it to anyone!
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Actually, it's probably more related to an old Ross Bertram effect (published in Ganson's Close-Up Magic...not sure if vol. 1 or vol. 2) than Williamson's Striking Vanish (which was published much later). The Bertram handling is probably better suited for stand-up / parlor situations. But also see the Weber and MAGIC magazine references cited above...

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Ok but what is the tricks...!? how is it made !? I'm new here and I don't follow you guys all talkin about it ad if it was obvious. Is there a code of conduct around that or something !? Can somebody let me know.

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Yes, it's obvious what's going on. But the key here is subtlties. He makes it look really clean. I wonder if it's just practice or if he has a very special handling of WSV.
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My favorite part is the "Real Person Clip." See this guy do it after only 5 days of practice!!!

I'm making a video. Se me do it.... after only 30 minutes of practice...and I never bought the video..DUM DUM DUUUUUMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!! I just need to make some cool graphics and find just the right techno song.

Maybe I will include it as a bonus feature on my DVD of cell phone magic. ;-)
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Even if you know the method, striking vanish and all there are more to the effect than that.
This is still a V E R Y strong effect, remember we perform for laypeople who don't know anything about David Williamson, and most certainly don't know anything about this type of coin vanish.
The product is also great cause it's a perfect starter before Quarter through soda can...
I'm ordering it!

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I am definately not downplaying. It is awesome. I suppose that's why I took the time to practice it. I will definately be using this in conjuntion with Sinful.
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Eirik,

I don't think anyone is knocking the effect. A good effect doesn't mean marketable as it's own seperate item. Especially if already published.

Spectatore cuts the aces is a strong piece of magic. Does that mean it's okay for me to make a DVD featuring an indepth explanation of Gregory Wilson's version?
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Can anyone provide me with a link to this other product you claim is being marketed? Insted of guessing you saw it here or there. Provide me with a link.
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You haven't been reading the posts eh? No one is guessing. No hearsay here. It was in November 2002 Magic Magazine(http://www.magicmagazine.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=November+2002&search_in_description=1&x=3&y=13 link for you.......). Brad himself has confessed that he is now aware of that article, and that now aware that David Williamson himself has published his S.V. as a coin thru glass in the early 90's.
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On 2005-12-16 10:47, Eirik wrote:
Even if you know the method, striking vanish and all there are more to the effect than that.
This is still a V E R Y strong effect, remember we perform for laypeople who don't know anything about David Williamson, and most certainly don't know anything about this type of coin vanish.
The product is also great cause it's a perfect starter before Quarter through soda can...
I'm ordering it!

-e-


I think I gonna do that too. I like the effect even if I am 99% sure how he did that. but I think he has on his video clip some great details for doing this effect and even it seems for some people very bold, if you are able to perform it like he does and it rocks. and if you are able to eprform it with very small openeings it gets much stronger. for 15 bucks it is ok. oh btw here I have a question: is williamsons type really a vanish? I havnt seen davids vanish or others. I mean isn't it supposed to end up bottled? even if you use anything else it would make a sound wouldnt it? so can it really be used a a vanish for a vanishs sake? or isn't it more a penetration?
where can I learn the s.v. ?
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It's called The Striking Vanish for a reason...it's primarily a vanish even though it has other applications. Can't remember where I learned it, but it might be in the book Williamson's Wonders.
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Uhm, guys? The method for the coin in the bottle using Mr. Williamson's move is in Richard's Almanac and goes back to the 1970's. I hate to be the bearer of bad news... but I have played with this one for about 18 years. It's a "knack" thing and yes, it works with a Perrier bottle, a plastic water bottle, a beer bottle and even a Guiness bottle with the plastic thingy still inside (but who can tell? The bottle is opaque!).

So, even if the gentleman in the demo came up with a different method (and I have not seen the demo, so I cannot speak to that), the Williamson move method has been around for quite some time. It just proves that if you want to hide something - publish it in a big book of stuff, I guess.

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The actual reference is in Kaufman's The Collected Almanac on page 92. Striking Glass by Michael Weber, using the Williamson move. If you have the original magazines, it's in Volume One, Issue 11, July 1983.

My apologies for not having had the reference at hand when I posted last.

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$15.00 for this? This is a nice quick trick but it uses a well known move among magicians. This is the kind of thing that should be, and apparently was, included in a collection of work.
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I knew I wouldnt be the only other person to spot this, but whilst going through some old magic magazines, I found "Impromptu Glass Penetration" by Dominic Bruzzese. The method is exactly the same and with a little research, I find it strange how this can be released when you can learn it for free in the magazine. It is similar to Symbiose in ways. Not methodology, but an old idea put in print for free, is released to make money. Just saying though, don't want all the agro etc Smile
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