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Salah AAZEDINE
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I saw a French magician doing a rope trick. It was really very funny. I don't know the name of the routine but it's like the "do as I do" trick with cards. The magician gives a rope to spectator (the magician also has a rope) and he asks him to do exactly as he does. It was really funny because the spectator does the same thing as the magician but the result isn't the same. There's always a knot that appears in the magician rope but nothing in the spectaor's rope, and vise versa.
If anyone knows the trick please tell me.
Thank you.
Al Angello
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I do it. I learned it in Boy scouts back in 1957, but I don't know what you call it. I can't wait to hear the name.
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If memory serves me correctly, it is the first trick in Abbott's Encyclopedia of Rope Magic. I'll dig it up and get back to you on it.

While I use a volunteer to do this, I turn it into a story about a con man and me. The volunteer plays my role and I play the magician..... In any case, I use it with three knots, two knots, and then two different ways with just one knot. Look it as a sort of a twist on color monte except with a rope and knots.

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This has been in hundreds of simple magic books.
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Al Angello
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Ok on page 99 of the Karl Fulves self-working rope magic it is called "The Hunter knot" not to be confused with other Hunter knots like the "Hunter bow knot". I have done this trick for 48 years and now I know what it is called.
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Al,

You were a Boy Scout in 1857. Pete saw you!

Pete knows that I was a Boy Scout until I became a girl scout. Look where that got me! Taking about hunter's knot!

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I've seen it called "The Impsossible Knot", I believe.
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Laurie
It probibly depends on your reference book. I have baffeled a classroom full of kids with just this one rope trick, and it is so simple this may be just one of those tricks that have been around for ever. There is a famous juggling trick called "the Mills mess" it was invented by Steve Mills we thought, until it was found depicted on the wall in a 4,000 year old Egyptian tomb. Laurie who knows what they called this trick 100 years ago.
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magicalaurie
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I'm sure it does depend, Al. Goes by many names, most likely. I don't doubt it.
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Sorry, that was "The IMPOSSIBLE Knot" Smile
John Long
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There are different versions of this, as well as different names

M. Wilson's: The Impossible Knot
Fulves: Hunter Knot (several versions, including one called Neale's Knot) Abbott's: Hunter's Puzzle Knot (involves a ring on rope)

but none of these has the spectator getting a knot when the magi doesn't

Other related setups
Fulves has a very different form called Betcha Knot
M. Wilson also has a very different effect: Triple Rope- Multiple "Do as I do" Knot

A different kind of effect but one that could play into the theme of "why are they different" is M Wilson's Equal-Unequal Ropes (which is called Grant's Comedy Rope Trick in Abbott's book). This is not based upon Prof Nightmare methods

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Once again it is good to read one of your posts. I read about rope magic all the time, and you are always at least one step ahead of me.
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On 2005-12-12 19:05, John Long wrote:
There are different versions of this, as well as different names

M. Wilson's: The Impossible Knot


Thanks, John. Smile

I agree the spectator DOESN'T get a knot. Nope. Smile
Salah AAZEDINE
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THank you all for yor reply .
magicalaurie
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You are most welcome, djdeenasty. Smile
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Thanks Al, but all I did was read from some table of contents. Smile

Maybe we'll yet meet, but life has gotten very crazy! Just today I got 2 traffic tickets, in the mail. I was never stopped by a policeman. I wasn't even in my car at the time/date the ticket was issued for. I anticipate having a hard time proving a "negative", but I will dig out some emails and downloaded files(magic videos of couse) that are time/date stamped at the time in question. Yet that may not be "proof"

I guess he just sent an early Christmas present.
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Boy, it took a while to get back to you but it's just like Al and John mentioned. And one method of doing this is like I had mentioned: it is the first trick in Abbott's Encyclopedia of Rope Magic and is titled the G.W. Hunter's Puzzle Knot. It's shown with a ring but it doesn't require a ring. Some might say that he ring subconsciously adds to the mystery. Have fun with this!

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