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Why not try Joyal's Six Hour Memorized deck. It's based on a set of rules you can learn pretty easily. After a while the rules fade away and the memorized order remains.
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On 2007-08-09 14:09, Yoava333 wrote:
I want to start memorizing a deck, What is the best memorized deck order?
Yoav


The thing to do, I think, is to do a bit of research first into what stack order has this and that built into it. (Search, read, etc). I tried to find out more information about that before I started memorizing a stack, but I didn't get any clear answers. Most people said "it doesn't matter what stack you choose, all of the good effects can be done with any full deck stack order". Well... this isn't exactly the case.

For instance, the Aronson stack has some built in features that will automatically work under certain circumstances; a Poker deal for 5 players, a Bridge deal, as well as some other things. The stack order is set up so that once you cut to a certain location, the rest is automatic. I didn't know this when I started learning it and now I find the Poker deal quite useful, whereas none of the other stuff really grab my interest.

I think the Tamariz stack has the ability to be shuffled into a perfectly sorted deck. I'm not sure what else it has exactly.

Hopefully someone (like Mr. Loomis) who know a great deal more about these things will give you some sort of list of features for the most popular stacks. They all have tons of published material that you can use with your chosen stack, but the built in features are important when making a choice.

In any case, I recommend that you learn a full deck stack, -one of the ones which looks like a shuffled deck when spread without having to many clearly visible "patterns". It takes a bit of work to get it down but anyone can do it with a little patience.
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On 2007-08-09 15:06, The Amazing Noobini wrote:
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On 2007-08-09 14:09, Yoava333 wrote:
I want to start memorizing a deck, What is the best memorized deck order?
Yoav

The thing to do, I think, is to do a bit of research first into what stack order has this and that built into it. (Search, read, etc). I tried to find out more information about that before I started memorizing a stack, but I didn't get any clear answers. Most people said "it doesn't matter what stack you choose, all of the good effects can be done with any full deck stack order". Well... this isn't exactly the case.

For instance, the Aronson stack has some built in features that will automatically work under certain circumstances; a Poker deal for 5 players, a Bridge deal, as well as some other things. The stack order is set up so that once you cut to a certain location, the rest is automatic. I didn't know this when I started learning it and now I find the Poker deal quite useful, whereas none of the other stuff really grab my interest.

I think the Tamariz stack has the ability to be shuffled into a perfectly sorted deck. I'm not sure what else it has exactly.

Hopefully someone (like Mr. Loomis) who know a great deal more about these things will give you some sort of list of features for the most popular stacks. They all have tons of published material that you can use with your chosen stack, but the built in features are important when making a choice.

In any case, I recommend that you learn a full deck stack, -one of the ones which looks like a shuffled deck when spread without having to many clearly visible "patterns". It takes a bit of work to get it down but anyone can do it with a little patience.


where can I learn the Tamariz stack?
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where can I learn the Tamariz stack?


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On 2007-08-09 15:35, Yoava333 wrote:

where can I learn the Tamariz stack?


Through this book here: http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=913
I want to get this myself, but as of now I still have unread books to last me for years.
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P.S. If you find an online copy that says "sp" behind the titlem I would assume that this is the original edition in spanish, which may or may not be what you want.

I thought about getting Tamariz books in spanish myself since I am studing the language. However, I should probably stick to my easy readers for now or some easier magic book like "Magia en el bar" with nice big drawings in it. Smile
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Okay, Nooblini asked for it. I have a very short list for you.
If you don't care about built in features, but want a stack that you can learn quickly, you want Doug Dyment's Quickstack. You can learn it in about 30 minutes.

If you want a stack which has a lot of built in routines and much available information in print, there are only two to really consider. The Aronson Stack, and Juan Tamariz' Mnemonica.

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From another thread:

M3d is the "Mind Map Mem Deck" by Dr. Hans-Christian Solka.

He has written a Ebook (66 Pages) about it, and you can download it for free!
Unfortunately it's not in english, and I don't know if there is a translated version anywhere.
But even if you can not speak german, you should look at the pictures very carefully and perhaps you get the idea behind the mind-mapping system.

Here you can download 3 of his books:

Mind Mapping for memorized decks, M3D and M3d-Encore.

http://www.solka2.privat.t-online.de/memdeck/mindmapping.htm

(I think he is also here at the magic Café.)

Edit:

I just looked up his posts at the magic Café. His name is HCS and he only posted 6 times, because his english is not very good.
But.. in on of his posts, he posted a link to an english explanation of the m3d-stack:

Here it is:

http://www.solka2.privat.t-online.de/mem......_eng.pdf
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Assigning tunes of various songs to the cards has helped me a lot in memorizing the crads.
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On 2005-12-09 05:01, GusVanNostrum wrote:
Cormac9: Don't get Harry Loraynes book. You are already using Dominic O'Briens system, which I think is a big improvement in relation to the 100 year old major-link-system. I would say: More practice.


it sounds similar to the mentalist technics used to memorize random objects. you have first memorize yuor personal list of scenes correlated to each number; and visually associate each random object to the corresponding scene .. on the fly.

although I use 40 scenes for the mentalist routine, I found it of little use for memorizing cards because, each card are pretty similar. I've memorized the Tamariz, by sequence of 3 or 6, depending on which card are first and last of the serie. it took me 3 sessions.
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