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JackDaniel
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Thanks for the link Al,
And....Nice post count by the way. Congrats!! Smile

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The last time I looked, there were purchase options for Rhing Thing. Any recommendations on which of the extras to also order?

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I don't have either of the bonus sorry.
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John
These are not purchased options, they are additional free options to encourage you to post your honest opinion of the trick on a magic forum. I do not have the ring on cord, but I do have the "bonus effect" which kinda makes all other broken restore rubber band tricks look lame. If you do get Vinces "bonus effect" I personally recommend you ask Vinny Marini to send you his demo of "broken bracelet". You need only to look at it once to be able to do it, if you first understand Vinces "bonus effect"
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If Rhing Thing comes out on DVD, please notify us. Thanks.

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Greetings folks and Happy New Year!!! This past week, I've been inundated with FLRT purchases and request for the DVD release.

Just to bring all of you to date, the DVD has been in post-production for sometime. I've held of its release so as not to interfere with other rubber band DVD's. At present, I'm busy preparing for a trip to Hawaii with a Doo Wop group I sing with, and won't be back til early February. I'm also updating and re-designing the website along with the other four hundred and twenty six things on my plate. I will offer the DVD for release on Wednesday, February 22nd - to mark a significant date for myself. I won't take any pre-orders because I don't want that on my plate on top of everything else. Until then...

p.s. Vinny how are you? Just to clarify, RHING THING didn't come from THE JOINING, it is FOUND LINK done with a finger ring. We got all the straight with Jeff, I don't want to cloud the water again.
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Vince good to hear from you again .. I stand corrected ring thing came from found link
What I ment was the final result looks the same,the handling is very different your handling as I have always said is the very best
and how are you comming with liquid band 2 ...... will this be on your dvd?//

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Vote for Pinnacle!!!
it's has many phase
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Our opinions may differ, but I would like to welcome you to the magic Café,
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Vince what is the word on your DVD? Hey Al Greetings.
moilima
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Sorry if I sound stupid, but is Ring Thing impromptu?
boydy
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It is if you have an elastic band in your pocket or borrow one from someone.
Al Angello
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Both pinnacle, and rhing thing can be done seperately, and or together impromptu.
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Hi Al!! thanks for your kind words,
IMHO, Rhing Thing is very very visualy nice, very imposible looking can be shown one handed after the link & can be used with any "hollow objects".
but it's hard to get any band with correct tension for my fingers in impromptu situation; it's too easy to get "OOPS!", & the main principle can be seen for close-up condition.

M Ammar has a three phase routine is his book; The Magic Of Michael Ammar.
& I agree with Vinny, Simon Aronson's Ringleader can be incorperated too, it has one clean looking move for linking.

Regards,
r1238ex
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I asked Vince the same question when I first learned the trick, and he told me that you must practice rhing thing in slow motion, before you can do it confidently in public. When the tension is perfect your left index finger will know. I have been doing it with a 7" plastic ring for "ring and rubber band plus" with out a problem. It sure sounds to me like you have it, but not perfect yet.
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Al... I'm gonna hire you and Vinny to become my P.R. reps. I'm happy that you've gotten so much out of FLRT.

Just a couple of quick things...

Maybe I don't check into the Café as often as I could, I'm out of the house most of the day and come Friday, I'll be out in Hawaii for the next couple of weeks, but I'll try to be better when I get back.

FLRT works in an ebb and flow fashion. Parts of the routines can be done right under the spectator’s nose, and other parts require you to pull away from the spectator. Common sense tells you what sequences require what. When you have the object linked, that condition can be clearly and easily seen from several feet away, and it can be more easily seen by everyone you're performing for all at once. The unlink sequence can be done inches from the spectators eyes.

The present ELMO displays are the most secure displays currently available. Done correctly, it's pretty secure. However, the ELMO relies completely on the inherent properties of the elastic band in order to work. It's imperative that your hands are dry and clean before you start to handle the rubber bands. If you have any trace oils on your fingertips, you’ll transfer them onto the band and compromise the integrity of the ELMO. If you’ve just eaten, if you’ve touched your face, if you in anyway have a thin film of oil on your fingertips, you’ll be prone to mishap.

Having said that… over the past year, I’ve further developed RHING THING into a eight phase routine that includes an opening preamble that (1) links the ring to one strand (2) penetrates through the second strand (3) passes back onto one strand (4) displays in one hand – using a brand new SECURED ELMO display that allow you to (5) pluck the ring off of the single strand (6) display the freed ring and then just (7) melt the ring back into an ELMO (8) finally, you can release the ring from the band right under the spectator’s nose.

This new handling, along with several bonus routines, is what will be on the DVD which will be made available Wed, Feb 22nd, 2006. Again, no pre-orders.

I’ll talk to you guys when I get back from Hawaii…
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Thank you Vinny Marini for always thinking of me in these threads. Let me clarify any comments I may have made about My effect "The Joining" and Vince's "Rhing Thing".

"The Joining" is my take on Chris Kenner's "Missing Link" from his book "Totally Out of Control." I showed Chris The Joining and he said that This was the first version using a ring and band that was publishable and gave his blessing. So I published "The Joining" as a PDF file available only on my website.

Vince created "Found Link" and "Rhing Thing" and sent it to me to look over. I did and told Vince that I thought there was a significant improvement in the handling of Rhing Thing over The Joining which included the one handed display so I gave my blessings for him to publish his manuscript. I never said the handlings were totally different. There are some differences as there are some simularities. Let's face it, without breaking the band (as in another effect), there is only one way to accomplish both of these effects.

Whether Vince was inspired by The Joining or not, only he can say. When The Godfather (Vinny) references The Joining and Rhing Thing together it's because he is a considerate magic friend and is giving credit where credit is due. He has both routines and knows the simularities and the differences.

I look forward to Vince's DVD on this effect as I stated before, it is a improvement and is worthy of serious study by all magicians. Just don't forget the past. The Joining is available for free when you purchase anything from my website.

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To Vince and Jeff both the routines are excellent, jeff was the first to connect a ring to the band using Chris kenners missing link .Vince's handling was the first to get rid od the tell tale x patteren .. and vinces handling to date is the best handling ..
as for the one handed dangling display I first did this to chris kenners and Michael webers linking band which Chris called missing link from his book.
I was able to pull the band completely around theother band ..Vince Mendoza and I both indepennatly came up with this idea and vice mentions this in is notes ring thing and found link,,,,,
as Magicians we all added to this wonderful effect and I believe with other effects like pinncale and ringleader they all can be interwoven into a great routine. that is impromptu and no gimmicks.
for other gimmicked effects lets not forget
linked for life
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really linked
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Pinnacle or Rhing Thing...

there is a simple answer to this...replace the word or with and.

get both.
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