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limhanchung Veteran user Malaysia 342 Posts |
Hello
Does anyone here multiply grenades? This is just an idea, don't take it too seriously. Thanks. |
Ron Reid Inner circle Phoenix, Arizona 2732 Posts |
Hi:
I've nevered heard of anybody multiplying grenades, but could see it being a practical nightmare - trying to travel on airplanes with them, and generally having people freak out when they see you with one. I think the idea is interesting, but you could get into some heavy-duty trouble while doing them. Ron |
h_A_Z Special user Ireland/Msia 701 Posts |
Oi Han Chung! Good idea! But like Ron Reid said, its very freaky to travel with it. Also audience might get scared if they see it!
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rikbrooks Inner circle Olive Branch, Mississippi 1317 Posts |
I really like the idea though. Imagine the comedic possibilities. You keep trying to toss a granade into a trash can on stage and it keeps coming back. You get more and more panicked, moving faster and faster (this would take some practice) until you reach for the grenade to get rid of it and they are both gone.
A flash pot in the trash can would be a really good addition at that moment. You could travel with them, just don't bring them in your carry-ons. Check them and in fact, you might want to tell the airlines that you are bringing them. |
RandyStewart Inner circle Texas (USA) 1989 Posts |
Oh yeah just perfect for a USO tour. As a veteran, I can only imagine what sort of reaction you'd get. Hahahaha....
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Mitch Schneiter Special user West Linn, Oregon 672 Posts |
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On 2006-01-21 14:52, rikbrooks wrote: Actually you couldn't fly with them either in checked bags or carry ons. Replica explosives are not allowed. |
Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
I understand what you are saying about the grenades. I understand you mean no harm, but people have different tastes. A grenade may give a veteran flashbacks. A person may be cautious of everything in the building wondering if something may explode. A person may not like the performer for bringing up grenades because that could be how his/her child died in a war.
There are a lot of tricks I would not do nowadays because of the recent years' violence; for example, guillotine tricks. One day when I was playing piñata with the children after a magic show, I had the kids put a bag over their heads. A child walked up to me in line and said to me, "My mom told me to tell you not to put a bag over my head." I quickly caught on and stop using a bag. Several times members in this forum have critcized me for what I do. I even got demands not to do "such and such". I'm just letting you know what my advice is. It is all up to you. Good luck. |
Sal Amangka Special user Manila, Philippines 712 Posts |
Anyway, if ever there should be one available, I think it will be made of wood or hard plastic. That way, you won't get into trouble with the airport authorities...
Sal |
Sam Tabar Inner circle Austin, Texas 1050 Posts |
Chubby,
I guess that will still cause trouble with the airport authorities because as Mitch Schneiter said... Quote: On 2006-01-21 15:27, Mitch Schneiter wrote:
"Knowledge comes from finding the answers, but understanding what the answers mean is what brings wisdom." - Anonymous
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Eric Buss Regular user 183 Posts |
DO NOT TAKE FAKE GRENADES INTO AN AIRPORT in your carry-on OR your checked luggage... drive to that gig.
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Sal Amangka Special user Manila, Philippines 712 Posts |
Sam,
I just remembered an incident that happend a long time ago here in Manila. It's about a man who was able to hijack a commercial airline using a grenade. Just to continue with the story, This "hijacker" took all the cash and valuables he could get from all the passengers. What happened next is amazing... he demamded the pilot of the plane lower the altitute to a certain level... then he opened the door and leapt out of the plane! He was wearing a parachute, which unfortunately failed to open and caused his death. It was later found out that the grenade he used was a fake and was made out of wood. It was tucked on his waist and went undetected by the metal detector. Well, this happend before 9-11. Now is a different story as airports around the world have a very strict policy when it come to security of passengers and inspection of your belongings. Sal |
Harry Murphy Inner circle Maryland 5444 Posts |
The routine would be a blast in the right venue! You could cut a series of “pineapple” grenades out of sponge material (very easy to do, I made a set of miniature Armadillos!). It would work similarly to the multiplying tennis balls.
There would be no travel restrictions at all if they were made from sponge and compressed in a small plastic container. I carry knives (color changing) and an air gun pistol with little difficulty (in checked in baggage with notes explaining their use and my cell phone number for instant contact). The sponge grenade compressed will go unnoticed. Label it a magic prop and don't put it in carry-on luggage. This could be played for broad comedy, with each a panicked look on the performers face with each grenade being produced. Drop them in a container (top hat) and have it explode (a small confetti cannon doing its thing and the bottom of the hat falling off!). Or you could do a multiplying ball routine having the grenade appear as one of the balls and accidentally pull the pin during the routine ending with the confetti explosion. Yes this is borderline tasteless, but given the right performer and right venue, it could be very funny (and acceptable).
The artist formally known as Mumblepeas!
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Sal Amangka Special user Manila, Philippines 712 Posts |
Harry,
I like the idea about using a "Sponge Grenade". Thanks a lot! Sal |
Sam Tabar Inner circle Austin, Texas 1050 Posts |
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On 2006-01-27 10:21, Sal Amangka wrote: I remember hearing that in the news. If I remember it correctly, the parachute was also found out to be homemade which contributed to its failed deployment.
"Knowledge comes from finding the answers, but understanding what the answers mean is what brings wisdom." - Anonymous
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Sal Amangka Special user Manila, Philippines 712 Posts |
Sam,
You are indeed correct! |
Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
The last magician I know of doing Multiplying Grenades was one armed MacDonald
STAY TOONED... @ www.pete-biro.com
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JosephKerr Elite user Los Angeles 418 Posts |
I used this concept for my Magician: Impossibe act a while back. Instead of using grenades for many of the above reasons, I merely used white Fakini balls to represent the C4 exposive charge. The little transparent stickes that you find on the faces of cheap digital watches can be stuck to the ball to represent the timers.
Initially you have an explosive and you non-chalantly vanish it. However, it reappears to your suprise. You vanish again and it returns. Repeats and then the ball splits in two...Damn! Some clever villan must have sent a Magical explosive to defeat our hero! This continues to four...Vanish back down to one. Start to get smug but once again the last one won't vanish. The beep track on the music picks up tempo as you run out of time. (If you'd like this is the space to add color changes to represent the mounting danger - yellow for warning, red for extreme , etc.) In a panic you merely throw the Ball offstage (into the wings) where a Flash pot goes off. I did this for a while ( not the color changing part. it got too convoluted for me) but I really liked this routine. The explosion at the end really shocked people and threw them for a loop. Unfortunately there are so few places where I can set off a flash at a venue in the city. But fun while it lasted.
"Challenge Your Reality"
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EsnRedshirt Special user Newark, CA 895 Posts |
JosephKerr- that routine sounds like a blast!
Okay, sorry, couldn't resist the pun. Another idea is to use multiplying "bombs"- the cartoon style black spheres, complete with fuse. They're instantly recognizable, cartoony enough to be funny instead of scary (and you're not as likely to give someone a heart attack if you drop it at his feet), and you could probably even get a gimmick similiar to what's used in multiplying billiard balls to make the trick easier.
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
What you can and cannot put in your checked luggage depends on several factors. One is if the baggage handlers are sharp enough to realize that it is a magic prop and part of your act. And another is whether you are getting on in the US, the UK or some other place.
In the US, you can bring book matches onto the plane. You cannot bring a filled lighter or nonsafety matches on, either in your carry on or your checked luggage. In the UK, the book matches must have "safety matches" on the cover. However, you can send a lot of things to your gig by FedEx or UPS red label.
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