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markiquark Regular user 185 Posts |
Hi folks, I am sure if you opened this thread you know at least one of the effects. Blizzard you can watch the vid at penguinmagic, white bikes at elmwoodmagic. I was wondering which one is superior but think I already know the answer. Blizzard, because the cards are examinable. But there may be something in white bikes to make up for it? I would love to hear your opinions. Markiquark
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evolve629 Inner circle A stack of 3838 Posts |
Nooo, you can't compare the two. They are different, IMO.
One hundred percent of the shots you don't take don't go in - Wayne Gretzky
My favorite part is putting the gaffs in the spectators hands...it gives you that warm fuzzy feeling inside! - Bob Kohler |
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On 2006-01-22 18:40, evolve629 wrote: As usual, you are correct! Blizzard can be examined-white bikes can't.
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sleightofhand1 Elite user 446 Posts |
I have had both and liked both !
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Nick23 Special user England 580 Posts |
White bikes doesn't use a deck switch so you can do it standing up or without a table. I like white bikes, and I've developed a handling that I think is better than the one in the instructions, PM me for details if you want it.
I have never had anyone want to examine the cards. You show them backs and 52 fronts cleanly, so they assume there is nothing more to see.
Nothing I do can't be done by a 10-year-old...with 15 years of practice."
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Review King Eternal Order 14446 Posts |
I like White Bikes and have used it when it frist came out. I think White Biukes is a trick and Blizzrad is a mind numbing KILLER effcet. Just my opinion.
"Of all words of tongue and pen,
the saddest are, "It might have been" ..........John Greenleaf Whittier |
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Ignore me... Loyal user 230 Posts |
I think that Blizzard is an amazing trick. However, I also own White Bikes, and would like to point out that, with a little forethought, you can take cards from the face and the back of the deck and drop them right into the spectators' hands, so it IS like they got to examine all the cards. I typically deal a few from each location, just to lock in the idea that cards were just randomly taken from various parts of the deck, and that I was being very open about letting them handle them...
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LordPH Regular user Suomi 189 Posts |
Blizzard requires more skills and self-confidence to perform, but they are both great!
...but I will stay with Blizzard!
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JSBLOOM Inner circle 2024 Posts |
I do not like the 9 force in White Bikes.
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robert bianchi Regular user New Jersey 159 Posts |
Agree Blizzard takes more self confidence, but like the instructions say, once you have done it sucessfully and realize that incredibly it works even when hands are burned, your confidence grows considerably.
I have even done the switch back again immediatley afterward and used the clean deck for the next effect. Never once has the switch ever been spotted much less suspected. Love the Blizzard. Bob |
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Cameron Francis V.I.P. 7025 Posts |
Why would you let a spectator examine all fifty two cards? Wouldn't that slow your act down? I almost never hand out my regular deck for examination. Most of the time, no one asks to see it.
White Bikes looks very practical for table hopping.
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tropicalpenguin Veteran user 396 Posts |
I occasionally have a few people examine a card or two after a color change, but that's it. Unless you do something that merits examination (I guess, like Blizzard), then they are fine. A deck of cards is something everyone is familiar with, which we can use to our advantage. Don't give them a reason and they won't suspect anything
That said, what I would do is have them "examine" after blizzard is performed (by "examine", I mean, ribbon spread, then turnover on the spread. One, it looks cool, two, they see both sides.) If they get picky, all you need to do is hand out one card. That's it. One. Anything else looks almost like you are pleading with them. If you get any guests who are any pickier than that, then you probably wouldn't have shown them a lot of sleight-heavy magic anyway
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magicofms New user Pittsburgh Pa 57 Posts |
I think Blizzard is the better of the two--couple of reasons why--NO FORCE-White Bikes uses an awkward force. And you are left COMPLETLEY CLEAN at the end -I think this is a great trick to close a set. Show all the faces blank and simply walk away--I guarantee they will look at ALL the cards!
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indomagic Inner circle 1143 Posts |
White bikes is good trick except for the force. The same gimmick cards have been used for FADE OUT
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Cameron Francis V.I.P. 7025 Posts |
It think the force is pretty well camoflaged in the trick. In fact, when I first watched the demo, it almost flew right past me. But then again, I wasn't expecting a force because I didn't know what the effect was going to be. You could substitute it for other forces, though. Like the one used in Overkill. Forget the name of it, though.
Maybe it's just me, but as a table hopper, I could never see myself doing Blizzard.
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
Where can one see a vidi clip of white bikes? BTW, Blizzard is a CLOSER... you can't follow it with anything.
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cgscpa Elite user Ashton, MD 447 Posts |
Here's one place to view White Bikes :
http://www.elmwoodmagic.com/?nd=full&key=826 View Demo button is on the right of the page. |
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
Not bad, very nice. I like the LOOSE handling and letting spek hold the cards. Thanks.
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Cameron Francis V.I.P. 7025 Posts |
I like it too. What I really like about the effect is that the misdirection you need is built right in.
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TheManWithoutFear New user 54 Posts |
Thanks for psting that link cgscpa. I strongly agree with Pete on this one. Allowing the audience member to hold the cards really adds to the effect. Effects like this are what really drew me into magic when I was younger.
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