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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
There are a couple of really impressive and spooky books to carry with you, and they both now have pocket editions.
First, the DSM IV diagnostic guide. And then of course the Necronomicon for those spur of the moment exorcisms after you diagnose the problem. Anyone made book test books from these things? Agreed about the Borges story. Amazing what can happen once you start adding things to books.
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Payne Inner circle Seattle 4571 Posts |
I tried a book test with my copy of the Necronomicon once but my subjects head exploded when he read the force word I had chosen.
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Tony Iacoviello Eternal Order 13151 Posts |
Isn't there a commercial product that uses this book for a book test?
I know of someone who created an entire act using this book. Tony |
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Leland Stone Inner circle 1204 Posts |
I've recently visited Barnes & Noble, Magi, and it seems that H.R. Giger (he of the set design for Alien, as well as backdrops for some of your more Lovecraftian/Bradburyesque nightmares) has a "Necronomicon." I hadn't the will to open it, the cover having been all I needed to see. You've been warned.
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ClouDsss Inner circle 1799 Posts |
Any idea how the book actually looks like? There are many different types out there and on the worlds biggest auction site but the contents seem different
Maybe I should just buy final curtain
Think outside the box, cos people are all thinking inside now!! - ClouDsss
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Jake Boone New user Cottage Grove, OR 78 Posts |
Well, that's just the problem. Since Lovecraft invented the thing, and other writers picked up on the idea, the idea of the Necronomicon has gotten so popular that all sorts of folks figured they could make a buck or two writing their own versions of the thing.
To make a long story short, there is no definitive version of the Necronomicon. I'd suggest making your own, and if anyone complains that your Necronomicon isn't the same as the one *they're* familiar with, simply look down your nose at them and sneer, "And where did you find what you think is the TRUE Necronomicon? Waldenbooks?" (Of course, you could be nicer than that, but hey... *you're* the one who's demonstrating a mastery of Arcane Forces; your book *must* be the correct version.) -- Jake P.S. There are no "dangerous" editions, unless you count dropping it on your foot as "dangerous".
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Kindred New user 28 Posts |
Here is some pure speculation for those interested to consider.
I have over a dozen biographies of Aliester Crowley- as well as everything the insane egotistical old bugger ever wrote. His work with "black" magic, old cipher manuscripts, the Goetia, etc. is well known. In the early 1900's he acted as a literary contributer to the New Yorker and other magazines while in the U.S. - and gave lectures on his poetry to the avante-garde circle in New York. (Few know that he had written dozens of books of horrible poetry which he tried to force everyone around him to read.) He gathered quite a few female "friends" from these lectures- one of which was reportedly the future wife of Lovecraft. Their romantic involvement was apperently well known at the time amongst the literary crowd in New York. Her name escapes me at the moment- and I am much too lazy to sort through my library to come up with it. As she was also a writer/poet, she seems to have had an influence on Lovecraft whom she met some years later- and may have inspired his work on the Necronimcon or "book of dead names" based on her prior intimate experiences with Crowley. Crowley had traveled widely in the deserts of the Arab world in the late 1800's, collecting esoteric knowledge wherever he could accumulate it- and may have stumbled across the work of the Mad Arab in its original Arabic form. The creation of engraved "talismans" in the Necronimicons currently available, which are used to open the various "gates" to different dimension have a certain degree of similarity to other Crowley magical exercises- such as the "Aberamelin" operation. All of the copies that are currently available in various forms at bookstores and the internet are obviously fakes- but there were rumours that a number did exist as late as the early 1900's- and that one did in fact exist in the British museum. (According to some researchers, one hundred year old library records have it listed in the collection) There were also reported to be several copies of the manuscript in private collections in Europe and one in the U.S. - all of which mysteriously "disappeared" when the Nazi party began to collect occult artifacts by any means necessary. The one at the British Museum was pulled from public viewing, and deemed "non-existent" after numerous attempts at theft, and due to violent confrontations by those fanatics attempting to access it. I do not know the above to be fact- but pure speculation based upon my readings in the matter- but it was still interesting to me none the less. This is just my little attempt to confuse this ongoing issue even further- hope it has been helpful! |
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Vanian Regular user Los Angeles, CA - Santa Fe, NM 154 Posts |
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On 2006-02-16 21:54, Leland Stone wrote: I used to have the Lovecraft version of Necronomicon back in the 1970s (maybe that's why I look younger than I really am!?) they used to advertise it in the back of OMNI magazine! And I also have both volumes of H.R. Giger's Necronomicon which are just his art books, not a "grimoire", though, the symbols and imagery in the art itself could conjour untold demons... ;) |
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CinChiller Elite user Germany 404 Posts |
The Necronomicom is an idea from H.P. Lovecraft and the name Abdul Alhazred (the name of the author) is also an idea from Lovecraft. As child he liked to play an arab and his uncle gave him this name (Abdul Alhazred). So, this book described in the novels of lovecraft is pure imagination but a very powerful, so people like Crowley used this story to write a book called the necronomicom. A good but old idea, the church did also in the past. They build their buildings on traditional mystic areas from other religions.
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MaZe-2 New user Belgium 100 Posts |
Well I am planning to have a cool version, I posted some page on that forum a few weeks ago... , a demon hand connected to a "necronomicon"?...(as a human hand can not write into this book off course ...),
some feature : -blood coming out the book -"the hand" is alive .... and maybe more .. |
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ClouDsss Inner circle 1799 Posts |
Wow thanks for the info guys!!
I am still looking for a nice bounded copy to purchase at a reasonable price. sadly they all come at extremely high costs
Think outside the box, cos people are all thinking inside now!! - ClouDsss
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Kindred New user 28 Posts |
There is no direct mention of the "Necronimicon" in Crowleys work. It is my understanding that Abdul Alhazred was indeed a name fabricated by Lovecraft- but I think it is important to understand his mindset as an author and the individuals and artifacts he associated with as he was developing his ideas. My main point is that the book that Lovecraft refers to as the Necronimicon may have its conceptual basis in another work- a real book that may have actually existed in some form for centuries before Lovecraft created his own "imaginary" tome. His friendship and association with members of the Golden Dawn (An occult society that Crowley was a controlling member of) has been discussed at length in writing and on the web. The "Abremelin" operation and its ritual scribing of metal talismans to open various dimensional gates apparently existed in written form for hundreds of years before Lovecraft was even born. The idea of ancient evil books and evocation/invocation was of great interest to the avante-gaurde set during the magick revival of the late 1800's. (Lovecrafts wife/significant other being such a member- Lovecraft himself being a loner, shunned such public interaction) Dabbling in "magick" apparently became a hobby of many of societies pseudo-elite (writers/playwrites, painters, actors, bored trust fund kids, groupies, etc)- especially in Paris, London, and New York. These hip world travellers then spread it everywhere. The British museums "Occult Reading Room", and its collection of fragmented tomes from the dark corners of the world became a Mecca for those around Europe in search of ancient and forbidden knowledge- it was THE source. The "Necronomicon" book reportedly removed from display at the British museum was said to be written in incomplete hand printed phonetic Greek- taken from ancient Babalonyan and Sumerian sources. Lovecrafts love of the strange and unusual (people, objects and ideas) and childhood penchant for romantic Arab culture may have brought him in touch with the document in some form, or at least the idea of it. The concept of ceremoniously controlling ancient evils is certainly not new and can be found in the literature of most primitive cultures. Most real items of this nature are impossible to find today as the Church attempted to violently suppress such documents wherever they surfaced (as playing with darkness is not nice!) The "Simon Necronimicon" which is currently available at bookstores everywhere is absolutely fiction- and is a romantic ode to Lovecraft- taking its inspiration directly from his stories. This modern available versions creation can be directly associated with fans of Lovecraft- but the nature of Lovecraft's great literary beast may have its true origins shrouded in time. Once again I have no facts to back up anything (just books)- but as a true bizarrist I have the innate tendency to create my own reality anyway. . .
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The Curator V.I.P. Beware Vampire, I have 3908 Posts |
If you like unique magic grimoires, don't miss the" Calendrier Magique de Croze et Orazi", one of the most awesome grimoire in existence.
It was published in 1895 (for the year 1896) by "l'Art Nouveau" in Paris - 122 rue de Provence, the adress became later the infamous brothel of Madame Claude. http://fantastic.library.cornell.edu/boo......ord=F051 There's an original edition in the Surnateum's library for the members to consult... |
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ClouDsss Inner circle 1799 Posts |
Thanks Mr Curator!! its definitely intriguing to look at the item in the link.
Think outside the box, cos people are all thinking inside now!! - ClouDsss
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Bill Ligon Inner circle A sure sign of a misspent youth: 6437 Posts |
Yes, that is a wonderful site! Thanks!
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cinemagician Inner circle Phila Metro Area 1094 Posts |
Enjoying this thread...while on the subject, I thought you might enjoy this quote, it has applications to bizarre magic-
"No weird story can truely produce terror unless it is devised with all the care and verisimiltude of an actual hoax." - H.P. Lovecraft
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
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On 2006-01-28 23:09, scolman wrote: You have to read it out loud with a Maine accent.
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
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On 2006-02-16 19:51, TonyEye wrote: Yes. It's Brad Henderson's Satanic Book Test. Highly recommended.
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
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On 2006-02-16 19:51, TonyEye wrote: Yes. It's Brad Henderson's Satanic Book Test. Highly recommended.
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Jim Magus Loyal user 246 Posts |
"Never Trust a Demon" is a variation of the Pegasus Page effect using an Avon paperback copy of the Necromonicon. It is written up in Arcana of Bizarre Magick.
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