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ImpromptuBoy
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Hi Everyone.
I'm going to order this DVD immediately. It's $99, but again, it's Sal, and when you buy a product from him, you know it's quality. For all you poker players out there, and there are MANY, get your hands on this product NOW before it's too late. I'll write a review for it whenever I get and watch it.
What do you guys think of this DVD?
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I doubt anyone's seen it yet.

Except for "mook" perhaps...
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You can get it for almost half price if you use one of the discount codes. I have seen it in Bluff and Cardplayer magazines. My order should go in on Friday.

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Do you mean cheating at poker in a casino?

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Is there a demo anywhere for me to watch
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I got this today and what a great video! It's jam packed with 2 and a half hours of anything and everything to do with cheating. False shuffles, false deals, mucking, cold decking, marked cards, location play, collusion, shiners, hold outs, hops, stacking.......this is a great resource to add to your library. My hat goes off to Pocket Aces- this is a wonderful product!
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Mr. Wessmiller:

Does Sal continue his tradition of providing teaching on the DVDs or is it more show than tell (ala Forte)?

Thanks!

Michael
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I'd consider it a teaching DVD. Very similiar to his first VHS tape, but much more in depth.
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What are you guy's refferring to. I think sal is so far the best only behind J. Bannon.!
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Wasn't sure what Mr. Wessmiller meant by "similiar to his first VHS tape" until I did a search and found Mr. Piacente did indeed have a tape called "Cardshark Secrets". Does anybody know if this is still available and where? or is anybody be willing to part with there copy? Thanks in advance...
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I give this product my full approval also. I think it should belong on your shelf along with Forte's series if you're into this type of work. I particularly liked the shuffle work. Andre80, check Amazon. That's where I got Sal's older vhs tape some time ago.
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Sal shuffle work is seriously amazing. His simple controls of stocks and location play are worth the price of the DVD.
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Guys, if you want copie of Sal's VHS, just e-mail him at sal@salthehitman.com. He'll take care of ya! He did it for a friend of mine.


By the Way, this DVD ROCKS!!!!!!! GET IT!!!! I heard that from all the excitement due to this DVD that if you don't order soon, you may not get one. They are going quick. Also, they have the coolest T-Shirts and Hats too.

Now, all I have to do is learn all the moves and all the methods, practice for the next 20 years or so, then WATCHOUT!!! I'll be unstopable. At least until Sal catches me.
I am truly blessed to have a job where people are laughing all the time and everyone believes in magic....Come to think of it, I'm blessed to even have a job.
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I got my DVD set in today and watched the first one immediately. The only thing that I "didn't like" (for lack of a better term) was the pass/shift. when I got to the second one and Charlie, I was a bit disappointed. did anyone think that Charlie was all that great? Over all, I think it was a really great DVD...but I am just wondering if I am alone in my thoughts here.

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Michael
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As a follow up...does anyone know why Sal removed the "live game play" that was originally advertised?

Michael
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I don't remember him advertising that, are you sure?
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On 2006-02-13 23:26, meijin wrote:
I got my DVD set in today and watched the first one immediately. The only thing that I "didn't like" (for lack of a better term) was the pass/shift. when I got to the second one and Charlie, I was a bit disappointed. did anyone think that Charlie was all that great? Over all, I think it was a really great DVD...but I am just wondering if I am alone in my thoughts here.

Thanks!

Michael



I just want to state for the record even though I haven't seen the DVD as of yet. What do expect the cheats to look like? What kind of moves do you expect them to have? Are you looking for fantastic magicians or what?

To a cheat all we want to know is "Can the move get the money" that's it nothing more.

Do you expect these guys to be me? I hold the title in this area because my teacher is dead and even though I might sound a little conceited I'm saying this to say don't be harsh on these other cold deckers such as Charlie because you saw me. Don't do that, these guys are legends to people such as myself and should be respected as such. It takes lots of nerve to do this move in a game and besides guys such as him paved the way for people like myself in order to learn.

Note: All of ya'll ain't great magicians and I will bet that 9 out of 10 of you haven't performed at The Magic Castle but that doesn't mean that you aren't good at what you; likewise us cheats. In our field Charlie is considered great so let us leave it at that.

Oh one more thing, you probably didn't like the pass/shift because it wasn't my Infinity Pass.

Respectfully

Doc
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I'm just an idle bystander....and I do plan on buying Sal's DVD....however....I do expect this type of DVD to contain original thought, new moves, new thinking vs. just a rehash of old material being performed well by a good technition.

Even a good phycology discussion would be worthwhile, since there is very little good information on that. (Although it can be found)

I'll find out if there is any original thought or ideas when I buy the DVD.

For example....even though I thought the Malek DVD on Hold'em was VERY well done and professional. I did not learn anything. It was a rehash and summary of old information. Sigh :-(

I guess it all boils down to each person's experience level as to whether the information is new or creative Smile
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Doc:

I don't want to give away too much what is on there...but just in brief...

The biggest "ugly" move was going to a hideout to move cards in and out of a game (up the short sleeve). Frankly, it was just bad. The only way it would fly the way it was shown was at a game full of blind people. Otherwise, he would get himself killed. It seemed to be an odd or ackward movement each time he did it. Even with the shirt off, he had a terrible time getting the switch...getting a card in there...getting the card out. It was just bad. I may be a newbie, but it was bad.

Theree were some other things, but I don't want to go through a detailed list in the forum.

And in all fairness, maybe it was because Charlie is retired. Maybe he was a little rusty. And I am really not trying to be negative. If it came off that way, it was not ment to. I am sure that Charlie has moves I'll never be able to attain.

As for Sal's pass/shift...the problem was the amount of cover he had with his own hands. You could see the cards "pop" from the angles that were shown. That was the only move of Sal's that I did not think was well done.

And I hope no one gets me wrong. I liked the DVD. I think it is probably the most complete DVD out there on cheating that also comes across as a "teaching" DVD. Forte's stuff covered more ground (i.e. more games) as Sal concentrated more on poker.

Doc you seem to know Charlie or who he is. Have you actually seen him work or do you know him by reputation only? I'd sure be interested to hear you comments on his cold deck. I think it could have been explained better as to how it would be employed.

Thanks Doc!

Michael
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Doc makes some good points. A cheat does NOT have to possess unreal skills. Again, here is the misconception that cheats are in some way superior to other cardmen. This is one reason why I think a lot of magicians (and for the record I am not a magician) think these types of dvds are boring. People need to understand that cheats are interested in money. Do you really think they care that their moves aren't extremely flashy? If they walk away with the money, that's what matters. Now, I have Sal's new dvd and personally I think it's great. I've posted this before I believe but Forte's influence on Sal is very clear. People praise Forte's series (as they should) but I don't think enough credit is given to Sal. In fact, a lot of the material can be found on both of their series. Anybody, yes I mean anybody, could devote time to practicing this art (ALOT of time if you plan on doing this for a living or in tough company) and make a lot of money simply from owning Sal's dvd or the Forte series. I don't know how people can make a complaint based on how a classic pass is performed. What about the elevator pass that both Sal and Forte do in their videos (and is described in Buckley's Card Control)? That's a good move, at the very least one with potential. My point is to take note of the better methods that are exposed. To end this post, I feel I need to comment on the remarks made regarding Charlie. In a way, I wish the live cheating footage would have been included. Why? The point of that footage would have been to show that real cheats aren't these people that have the unreal skills I mentioned at the beginning of this post. Of course there are exceptions, Doc being one of them in the field of cooler moves as well as some other areas. Not to mention, Charlie's moves weren't "bad." They would pass in many games. His cooler move was done smoothly, even though it wasn't the most creative switch. Charlie's moves fit the games he played in, and in the end he walked out with the money. End of story.
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