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Cartelli
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Can anybody tell me, where I could find a knot, that could be slidet along a rope and then pulled off (in the middle of the rope)?
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You can buy one at foolerdoolers.com or in Daryl's Expert Rope Magic Made Easy Volume 1 or 3 (I can't remember which volume), Daryl explains how to make your own.

http://www.foolerdoolers.com/store/produ......d=300117
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Daryl's rope is a woven yarn knot. If you want a real rope knot you have to go to Pavel at http://www.pavelmagic.com
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I'm sure some of the German magicians should be able to help here. I believe it was in an issue of "Magische Welt" magazine I learned a nice routine with a sliding and pop-up knot.
The magician cuts the rope in half, knots the two halves together. Holding the rope at one end in his hand and one end under his foot, he takes the knot with the other hand and slides it up and down. He finishes with pulling the knot off the rope, or with letting the knot fly off the rope.
The knotting of the rope is a bit strange, but the effect is very good.

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Perhaps you are talking about Pavel's "junior walking knot"
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Don't think so. You start and end with a normal rope.
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I have Daryl's rope magic, Fulve's, and Encyclopedia of Rope, but I don't recall seeing a knot that can both slide and pop-off(or be pulled off). If there is such a beast, I would like a specific reference, and description of the effect.

The closest I've seen to the stated effect, is Sankey's Believe it or Knot, in his Amazing magic anyone can do. The knot appears to move down the rope, but then disappears. You could use a palmed knot to make it look like you pulled it off.

John

Posted: Feb 6, 2006 7:01pm
Just found this:

Joseph Keen's slip knot: "The appearance to the audience is that you tie a slipknot in a length of rope, and then .. sliding the knot down the rope.. You turn the rope end for end and slide the rope the middle of the rope. Then you pluck it off the rope and throw it out. [the new Enc of Rope Tricks, p217]

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Yes John
I agree with you, the description of this mysterious knot is quite illusive. This knot is so magical I want to perform this amazing trick myself.
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A correction:

Joseph Keen's slip knot: "The appearance to the audience is that you tie a slipknot in a length of rope, and then .. sliding the knot down the rope.. You turn the rope end for end and slide the knot to the middle of the rope. Then you pluck it off the rope and throw it out. [the new Enc of Rope Tricks, p217]

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I have that book, I will look it up.
Tanks
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One more, that may work with rope

Kato's Through Solid; a silk is tied around a piece of rope, (and I assume can be slid up and down the rope,) the silk can be pulled off the rope and there is still a knot in the rope. Ency of Rope Tricks p355.

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You could tie a pop off knot and pretend it's around the rope and slide it anywhere just by holding it against the rope, then pluck it off.
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Thank you, that's the most practical. You can't show it on the rope on different places, but for laymen this dosn't matter.
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At last I found the description of the trick I mentioned earlier. It was published in a German magazine "Magie" (not Magische Welt, as I thought), issue 3/2002, p. 114-115.
"Der Superknoten. Ein praktische Knoten für Ihre Seilroutine. Diesen Knoten können Sie auf dem Seil hin- und herschieben und dan einfach abpflücken."
"The Super knot. A practical knot for your rope routine. You can slide this knot up and down the rope and than simply pluck it off."
This idea is from Robert Wieland, who says he was inspired by a routine by Joro, where a gimmick was used to accomplish the same effect.
In this description, clearly illustrated with a lot of photos, no gimmick is used. As I stated in my previous post, you start and end with a normal rope. Nothing is added or taken away.
For some time I use it at the end of Colombini's three rope routine, leaving a completely restored rope.

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Jack Miller's Sliding Knots, explained in Karl Fulves "Self-Working Rope Magic" (Page 28)would be a good choice and you could easily ring in a palmed knot. Tie a knot in a rope, use a little Elmer's Glue in the middle to hold the knot together and trim away the ends to make the false knot.

Also Aldo Colombini's Singlehanded Secret Slip Knot from his Knotty Knot Routine could be worked into the routine. Play with different ideas and make it your own!
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Well Grandpa
You have brought up a point and I must take this oportunity to correct what I stated on another topic. I said that Daryl did not do the singlehanded secret slip knot, and that Aldo Colombini was the only one I knew that taught this knot. Well I was wrong yesterday I saw Flip do it, and teach it rather well on his "Ringmaster in the Rope" DVD, he works so fast that I just had the hardest time absorbing it all.
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