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BrianCooper New user Los Angeles, CA 55 Posts |
I just got back from this event and I wanted to say that it was a great seminar and totally worth my time. The teacher to student ratio was incredible (14 students and 6 teachers) and even though it was scheduled to be 6 hours long it went to almost 9 hours of instruction/entertainment/hands on quality time. In addition to the main teachers of Mike Rubenstein, David Roth, Mike Gallo and Jeff Latta, we were treated to lessons from Curtis Kam and Kainoa Harbottle.
Each instructor started off by doing a short set of pet effects for us then taught a mix of basic, intermediate and advanced moves and routines. Later we broke up into groups of about 4 students and had 15-20 mins to work with each main instructor, to go over material presented, to have them critique our moves and effects and to ask any question about any topic we wanted. David Roth in particular shared many personal stories about the eccentricities of coin legends of the past and was very entertaining with them. We were also treated to parts of David's collection of video clips from greats such as Slydini, Vernon, Ramsay, and even Al Flosso. My personal highlight was getting to see and work with Kainoa Harbottle. I have been working with his edge grip material for some time now and it was a treat to see this young creative coin genius at work and to get to ask him about the fine points of his original moves and routines. His new material using gaffs in addition to incredibly difficult sleights looks as awesome as his earlier work. I came away with a ton of material in the form of lecture notes and DVD's produced for us students in addition to the the material I purchased from Curtis and Kainoa. I have a lifetime of material to work on so I better get practicing. In closing, I wanted to give the NY Coin Seminar a huge thumbs up plug and can recommend it highly for folks of all skill levels from intermediate to super advanced (rank beginners would get more out of it by studying the classics first). If you ever get the chance to attend a future seminar by all means attend. Brian Cooper |
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
I have heard nothing but raves... I was in part of it taking pictures and was blown away by their work.
STAY TOONED... @ www.pete-biro.com
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jgravelle Loyal user Milwaukee (Head shown not actual size) 270 Posts |
Fourteen students... you're killin' me.
C'mon guys... do a Chicago seminar. There's no better climate in the winter... Regards, -jjg |
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walking_liberty Elite user 458 Posts |
I'm so jealous. I'll be at the next one for sure.
Thanks for the report Brian. |
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Magiguy Inner circle Seattle, WA 5467 Posts |
If you ask me, The Seattle Seminar has a sweet ring to it.
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Kainoa Elite user NewArk, Delaware 424 Posts |
I have to admit that I enjoy attending these sessions because I get to watch the NYC guys do all the hard work (and Pete, of course--it's tough to make some of us look good)!
Thanks for the great review, Brian. I think their seminars are going to get better and better..... |
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Kainoa Elite user NewArk, Delaware 424 Posts |
And if you'd like to experience a hint of what these extravaganzas are like, please check out the new Coins Across DVD. It's got a number of highlights--mini lectures--directly from the last seminar. It's only available from a few people and won't be appearing in magic shops anytime soon. Oh, and I'm on it too, but that shouldn't stop you from being interested....
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BrianCooper New user Los Angeles, CA 55 Posts |
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On 2006-02-23 05:37, Kainoa wrote: There is no substitute for personal attention when it comes to learning difficult sleights. I think I saved my self many hours of frustruation by attending this class. For example I discovered that I have been doing your edge grip wrong all this time. I have been holding it much closer to the palm in a low Downs palm position for some reason. Also some of your sleights seemed impossible to me so when you said that you thought they were humanly impossible intil you finally got them to work made me feel like working on them more and not giving up. I got my coin magic batteries seriously charged up by this class, thanks again. Brian Cooper |
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Dan Watkins Inner circle PA 3028 Posts |
Brian, I would not not say that position you describe for Edge grip is "wrong". The position you describe (low Downs) is not the position that David Roth uses for his Edge Grip work , but it is the position that Kainoa uses for all his edge grip work.
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Kainoa Elite user NewArk, Delaware 424 Posts |
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On 2006-02-24 12:36, Dan Watkins wrote: I'll say it's wrong, Brian. Just kidding. Or maybe not. As Dan points out, since I modify the position, keeping things farther back in low Downs (on the down low, of course) might make much of my material harder. However, I've talked to other people who can do some of the stuff comfortably out of Downs. So, like most palms, one's ideal placement is the balance between one's comfort and utility (i.e. it feels good and it works). Like all good(?) things, this material takes time. I had even given up on it in the early stages, and only by going back to some of the moves was I able to make them work. I just hope you find something useful in it for making your work as magical as possible. By the way, for those of you who have preordered my new material, everything ships out on Monday. In the spirit of all the contests that have graced this board recently, I'm going to randomly select one of these wonderful folks to receive a DVD featuring my work on the Pendulum Hanging coins. Thanks again!.... |
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BrianCooper New user Los Angeles, CA 55 Posts |
Dan,
The position I was using had no gap between the coin and the palm whereas Kainoa's position has an air gap back there. I hope this is obscure enough as to not be going afoul of the no modus operandi policy of this board Kainoa, The low Downs position seems more stable to me with less tendency to slip out during your spin display etc but I worry about there being less cover during palm flashes from this position. I will try it from both positions and see which one wins for me. By the way, I wanted to pass on that I totally love the clever artwork that Laura Simo has been doing on your books Kainoa. Brian Cooper |
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Kainoa Elite user NewArk, Delaware 424 Posts |
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On 2006-02-24 20:56, BrianCooper wrote: PM me the name of any product you want on my website and you can have it for free, Brian.....just because you're the first to mention her name online. The Coinapalooza covers (which are obviously two views of the same scene) can now be seen at my website, and they are quite cool, I think. I just gave her that idea and she ran with it. The interior art is often hilarious and usually her just riffing on my goofy titles. Good luck with the material..... |
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walking_liberty Elite user 458 Posts |
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On 2006-02-24 21:44, Kainoa wrote: Is this the jazz singer, Laura Simo, that you're talking about? |
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BrianCooper New user Los Angeles, CA 55 Posts |
Kainoa, you rock sir.
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Kainoa Elite user NewArk, Delaware 424 Posts |
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On 2006-02-24 22:01, walking_liberty wrote: No....my Laura is a blond German (Slovak) from Chicago rather than a brunette singer from Barcelona. My Laura also rocks, but not in the same way as the other one. |
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walking_liberty Elite user 458 Posts |
Ah, ok. Thanks for clearing that up. I was wondering why she was doing illustrations for your books.
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MSD921 Special user 616 Posts |
Laura Simo, Laura Simo, Laura Simo..........
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Kainoa Elite user NewArk, Delaware 424 Posts |
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On 2006-02-25 08:27, MSD921 wrote: Ha ha..... But to get back to the topic, I also wanted to second Brian's praise for the breakout sessions, where everyone got to work in small groups with each of the performers. The fab four did everything from take requests to go over the minute details of basic sleights. I got to wander around while that happened and witnessed a lot of "a-ha" moments. As someone who works in education, those are exactly the moments I get excited to see and what the seminar is all about. And the Flosso video is worth the price of the seminar. |
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
Flosso's Misers Dream is UNEQUALLED in the realm of stage coin magic. His routine is PURE GENIUS...
STAY TOONED... @ www.pete-biro.com
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Larry Davidson Inner circle Boynton Beach, FL 5270 Posts |
Flosso was a "trip." Talk about a character.
I also attended the coin seminar in Vegas and highly recommend it to anyone, whether you're a beginner, intermediate, or advanced coin man. The presenters are some of the best in the world, they openly share their work, they tailor what they cover in the breakout sessions, and they provide attendees written and video materials that both reinforce some of what's taught in the seminar and provide additional information. The seminar is intense because it covers so much material, but at the same time it's a very relaxed and enjoyable atmosphere. In my opinion, the price is cheap considering what you get. I don't think that there's a magician on the planet who couldn't benefit from attending the seminar! Larry D. |
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