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EvanSparts Veteran user Michigan 333 Posts |
Have you ever forced yourself to go out in public with nothing on you? Leave all props coins cards everything completly gimmick-less, and then only perform with things that you see or find. I have been doing this a lot latley call me crazy but I kinda like the challenge. the challenge of impressing them and coming up with things on my own. Not just relying on my normal impromtu stuff. Its strange how creative you can get when you force yourself to.
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mc_magi Special user Vancouver, BC 949 Posts |
I'll worship you if you get past a corporate event likethat =D
I have parted with my deck what... twice in last month? only because of washroom break xD Joking lol...but I DO find myself fooling around with my figner if I don't have any props on me. |
EvanSparts Veteran user Michigan 333 Posts |
Well I'm not talking a show. just when you go out with friends or something like that. although maybe if I keep doing this Ill have enough ideas to do a whole show.
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mc_magi Special user Vancouver, BC 949 Posts |
I know, I was just cracking a joke. Although now that I read it its not so obvious. ><
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EvanSparts Veteran user Michigan 333 Posts |
I know you were joking, ut on the same note I do want to try to do a whole show like that once just to see how it goes.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Don't even think of doing a paid show like that. It is not professional.
I leave the house every day with nothnig on me. When I am not working I put the magic away. I don't feel the need to make people watch magic for no reason. Too many guys make a pain of themselvs. As for doing a whole show like that as a paid performer why would you even try this? It would be unfair to a client needless to say. Things happen when you lose baggage and so forth, but to do it intentionally is not professional.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
mtso2000 New user 72 Posts |
Actually there was a post about this very topic a while back, and many people thought it would be a potential reputation making stunt (albeit, a highly challenging one!) to go to a show with nothing on you but still make the magic happen. No one was up to the challenge, as I recall, but it is a novel idea. Especially for a mentalist or a comedy magician, as so much of those acts rely more on presentation and on the persona of the performer and the props are often secondary. Not that I'd try it, but it's a challenging idea!
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EvanSparts Veteran user Michigan 333 Posts |
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On 2006-02-22 15:21, Dannydoyle wrote: Explain how this is unprofessional, when I said that If I did this enough to be comfortable and confidant in it to do it. Personally I think I could actually do it. In a professional way. Eugene Burger and Max Maven were even thinking of putting out a dvd called Nothing, and it it was about how to do a show with pretty much nothing. What is your definition of professional? Because I have seen some "professional" acts that definatly were not. |
Jaz Inner circle NJ, U.S. 6111 Posts |
I like what you're doing Evan.
I've been observing my surroundings and making notes of the magic possibilities for a while and rarely carry magic stuff. Lists of possible props include things people, and I, carry normally; my work place; restaurants; bars; banquets and things I may see when visiting friends. There are impromptu topics and challenges here at the Café that can be found when the Search is functioning. Lee Darrow has a couple of challenges here somewhere. |
EvanSparts Veteran user Michigan 333 Posts |
See that's what I'm talking about Jaz, challenging ourselves to be creative, and think outside the box.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Evan what I am trying to say is if you are contracted to do a magic show you should do what they are expecting.
IF they are expecting you to show up with nothing and hope to find something to work with and then that is the best result then great. IF indeed they think they are buying 20 years of polish and rehersal, then you are acting like an amature and cheating the customer. If they know up front what they are going to get then it is fine. To do it because you want too, and the customer has no idea, well that is poor business in my opinion. A surgen would not show up at your house and use the tools in the garage to take out your appendix now would he? Being a pro is about giving them what they pay for plus some. I feel if they contract you to do this act then so be it. If indeed you have booked on being a 20 year pro and showed them some things on a DVD or whatever medium, THAT is what you should go with. I am not talking about being creative and learning, but dong the show. I agree I have seen many many alledged pros who should not be working with the acts they are. This is another subject entirley. Posted: Mar 1, 2006 8:18pm I also think for the record this "stunt" will impress magicians far more than laymen. They have no idea what is going on behind the scenes. All they want is to be entertained in the end.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
EvanSparts Veteran user Michigan 333 Posts |
Ok you bring up a fair enough point. I would not do it unless they understood. You're right I would'nt just show up and do that, but at some piont in my career would like to try it and will keep challenging myself to not always fall back on my normal magic crutch.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Evan the question is why?
What is the point? Your job as performer is to create magic for your customers I assume. Enetertain them. I have never understood the facination magicians have with this. Like I said impresses magicians far more than laymen. Heck they are supposed to think you can do that anyway. They assume being a magician that you already CAN do what you are asking. THIS is the illusion you are creating in the first place. Why cripple yourself? Selling the idea in the first place would be tough too. "Do you want me to do a show without bringing any gimicks?" NOT a question that should ever pass your lips. I guess I am saying people already assume you can do this, so I let it go personally.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
Jaz Inner circle NJ, U.S. 6111 Posts |
Danny.
First of all I'm not sure if Evan is a hobbiest who performs occasionally for acquaintances or one who performs on a regular basis for money, or not. I think what Evan wants to do is to be ready for any situation whether he is prepared or not. It's not always about money to some of us. On a daily basis I rarely carry magic props. My job is a physical one and things will get lost or broken so I've looked at things that are available in this setting to use in a pinch. I'm a mere trickster for the most part. Later this month I will be going to a wedding as a guest. In this situation I will be prepared with some invisible 'helpers' and common looking gaffs that look like things that are there or can be borrowed. Here the astonishment is a bit stronger and there's the sense that there's real magic going on. If I am performing for a client, which I rarely do any more, things are entirely different. I would show up with different props and tools of the trade as expected. It's here that I am Magician. |
EvanSparts Veteran user Michigan 333 Posts |
Jaz you took the words right out of my mouth. I do just want to be prepared, for any situation. Doing a show (and I am talking a paid one,) that would be all impromtu, is just something I would like to do just to entertain myself, to see if I have the chops for something like that. Danny you are right, the only way that would be impressive is if I did it for a group of magicians or atleast had a camera for them to watch.
I guess Jaz hit the nail on the head when he said I would just like to be prepared, and I think its fun. But I still rely on all my normal stuff. |
gollymrscience New user 65 Posts |
Hmmm....
I think we would have to define what type of paying show. There is no definition here. Is it a small school event is it a big Shriner's convention. What type of magic do you do? What are they expecting? A mentalist routine or a full blown zig zag elephant? You give the customer what they paid for. I've done 20 minute paying shows with nothing more than what I scrounged back stage. Mostly mental effects and strange happenings. Done in a lecture style to an audiance that expected to hear about cosmic co-incidence. No problem. Not one shiny prop or magic apparatus. Depends on the audiance expectation,your control of the audiance and your situation. Don't show up with a knife to a gun fight. Don't walk in front of an audiance that expects to see vanishing Lear Jets with nothing but a smile. |
jdknight New user 90 Posts |
I think I see where both Evan and Danny are coming from. Evan, you could do your paid show as normal and then, sort of as an encore or extra tell the audiance you have a liitle extra 30 minute bonus show (or something like that). That way, the customer gets the full paid show that he expects, and you get to see how an audience reacts to a fairly involved (30 minute) "NOTHING" show.
Darren |
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