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Nicodemus
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Anyone have references or ideas for doing the Ambitious card without using a double lift ? Possibly using the Top Change or some other dodges ?
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Florian Rago
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Try the velvet turnover.

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An interesting method is the Bluff Bluff Pass (see Roger Clause in Concert).
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Also the material from Lennart Green is superb, although a bit angle problematic.
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Steve Draun's routine from "Secrets Draun from Underground" is designed to make as little use of the double lift as possible.

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Check out Daryl's ambitious book or video for some "non double" moves.
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You could use the Dunbery Delusion.
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Nicodemus
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Where can I locate the "Dunbery Delusion" and/or the "Velvet Turnover"?
And could you describe how the Dunbery Delusion is different from a standard Ambitious card routine?
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I started to think about this actual topic months ago when I realized that when I watch videos (because there are no magicians to watch live anywhere) I am constantly fooled by the top change.

I don't know that I've ever been fooled by a double-lift.

Both moves have their benefits, but I am of the opinion that as much as possible, an effect should be devoid of "moves." To me, this translates into good misdirection.

Obviously, most laymen don't know what a double-lift is, but being able to direct audience attention is much more important than being able to do a good double-lift.

So I think it's something good to think about and work on.
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Burt Yaroch
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Bill Malone uses a classic pass during his Ambitious routine.
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What about false dealing? Smile Smile Smile
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It is absolutely possible to put together an entire Ambitious Card routine without using double lifts, or false deals, or top changes. However, you don't have to handle the cards as much when using the double lift, which gives you more credibility.
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The velvet turnover can be found in "Pure Effect" by Derren Brown. Do not be fooled though, as it is a "version" of a double lift. Get the book anyway. It is very compelling to read and might enhance your performance style.
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About the references, I'd say Daryl and Malone.

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Daryl's video on the AC is great but I have never been able to perform a DL convincingly! I have opted to learn the classic pass which to me has given great results! Malone is a great reference!
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William,
Learning a convincing Double is a knack thing (the best IMHO is the Knock-out double lift) and just requires practice and determination. Trust me, practice this for several weeks for a half hour a day and then forget it for a month. Then go back to it and do that again and you will be surprised how quickly you pick it up then. Trust me on this, that process will work.

As for the fellow that asked about the Dunbery Delusion, it is in Expert Card Technique.
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I don't have trouble with a strike double turnover. But, then again, I put a lot of time and thought into it.
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Agreed. At first, it's tough to "strike" two cards in a consistent manner. Only with a lot of practice do your fingers learn to automatically get the double every time. And of course, you then adjust your single to match the "strike" double and then it becomes quite deceptive. While I love the look of the "knockout DL," pushing over only two with my thumb is still pretty inconsistent. I continue to work on it, but wonder why I bother when my strike double is more than enough. Smile
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Marlo's Ambitious Card Routine is interesting from the standpoint that it uses no passes, no card is selected, and uses no conventional double lifts . . .
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WilliamWHolcomb: Is the Malone version on his new DVD releases ?
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