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RealDeal JU Veteran user New Jersey 375 Posts |
Hi,
I'm looking for a new take apart vanish box. I already own one but its the cheap one where you can show both sides of everything but the lid. I'm looking for one where the lid can be shown freely. I've looked around at a couple places and havent come up with anything. Does anyone know where I can find a good Take-Apart Vanish Box? Thanks guys. Jim
"Challenge yourself to come up with your own
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
Do you want the big buck items now! The only one that I can think of the called the "The Fastest Trick in the World" or Challenge Vanish Jack Quinn invented and made popular. See Abbott's Magic Mfg. in Colon, MI they will make the best quality. Or I see Mak-Magic item# P2566 has a copy from India for $200.00.
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MikeDes Inner circle Montreal 1174 Posts |
Chance Wolf sells a take apart vanish. I'm not sure if that is what your looking for but you can check it out at
http://www.wolfsmagic.com/ |
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Ron Reid Inner circle Phoenix, Arizona 2732 Posts |
Hi Jim:
I don't think I've ever seen the type of Take-Apart Vanish you're describing. It's true that some Take-Aparts have a better black art chamber than others, but I still don't think you can it freely. I think you still have to show it in a way that only gives the audience a glance at the underside. Even the expensive models that Copperfield and Burton use - the type where the pieces are stacked on a special table - cannot be shown on the underside of the top. Have you seen someone do a take-apart where the top was freely shown on both sides? Ron |
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RealDeal JU Veteran user New Jersey 375 Posts |
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On 2006-03-04 15:06, Ron Reid wrote: No, I haven't seen it but I thought I did. Lol. The one where it's on a special table is probably what I'm looking for. The blackart chamber on mine is way too big. It holds a whole lot, but makes showing it and setting it down very difficult. On the sides of the chamber, there are 2 pieces of wood so I cant even set the lid down flat. If I do, you can see the chamber from miles away. Jim
"Challenge yourself to come up with your own
material, rather than buying into the idea that you have to do the same thing that everyone else is doing to be a good magician." |
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Larry Barnowsky Inner circle Cooperstown, NY where bats are made from 4770 Posts |
There are take apart vanishes that need a special table to receive the panels (Okito/Nixon Duck Vanish). There are also ones that are self contained that allow you to apparently show all sides due to some clever construction of the box panels such as ones made by Owen Magic Supreme.
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
One that comes to mind is detailed in The Magic Handbook (Science and Mechanics), unfortunately OOP, but sometimes they show up on Ebay. It has a lid that consists of two pieces, the top is solid, while the underneath piece is like a frame. This is a very deceptive method of a take apart vanish. You really believe you see all sides, although you don't want to do this surrounded. I think the same trick is in Mark Wilson's Encyclopedia of Magic.
Don't overlook a good newspaper tear apart vanish either. These are able to be done surrounded, if you present it smartly. I've done it many times. The Nixon Duck Vanish (Where Do The Ducks Go?) is described in Greater Magic. The ditch gaff is not a table, but rather the cage that the ducks began in, being used as an impromptu table. ~michael
~michael baker
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Spellbinder Inner circle The Holy City of East Orange, NJ 6438 Posts |
Jack Gwynne's Rabbit Vanish Supreme (made by Abbott's) has the qualities you requested. You'll find a description in Ian Adair's "Encyclop[edia of Dove Magic" volume 1 (p.171).
Professor Spellbinder
Professor Emeritus at the Turkey Buzzard Academy of Magik, Witchcraft and Wizardry http://www.magicnook.com Publisher of The Wizards' Journals |
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Julie Inner circle 3936 Posts |
Grant(MAK?) and Abbott's make (made?)a vanish like the one Michael remembers from the Science and Mechanics Magic Handbook. Abbott's was called "Suckerette". I don't recall what Grant called his, but I seem to remember it had a fish design painted on the lid for some reason???
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Glenn Godsey Special user 737 Posts |
Interesting that you bring this up. I have been thinking of a version for years where the magi can clearly show both sides of each and every panel. I just started physically putting it together this week and, with only painting left to do, it is working very well. I normally lean toward sleight0f-hand, but lately, I have been taking nostalgic visits back to box tricks from long ago and developing improvements.
I have also been developing a much more direct version of Abbott's "Hole in One". It is a fooler. Best regards, Glenn Godsey |
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four elements New user 91 Posts |
Does anyone have experience or comments on the "Vanishing Rabbit" effect http://www.wonderwarehouse.com/ProductDe......T%2D1330
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leapinglizards Inner circle 1263 Posts |
Remember, the heat is not on the lid. If all OTHER pieces of the box are handled freely, the memory will probably say that the lid was as well.
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magicbob116 Inner circle 1522 Posts |
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On 2006-03-04 22:33, Michael Baker wrote: Wilson's Cyclopedia does give construction plans for a take apart vanish (it's probably in his complete course too). It's the variety where the top panel has a frame and a door. I believe Wolf's and several other versions I've seen available commercially also use the "door and frame" design for the lid. As stated above, the audience does get to see both sides of the lid (sort of). It is a very convincing display. I recently thought of a way to construct a take apart vanish where you can really show both sides of every piece freely. I'm sure it's been done before, but I'm not all that familiar with the many variations on this trick. I've drawn up some plans and hope to construct a prototype in cardboard in the next week or so (I always do really cheap cardboard prototypes first until I'm sure they're going to work before commiting to investing in the wood and other materials to construct the finished product).
B. Robert Pulver
The "I Hate Card Tricks!" Book of Card Tricks Vol. 1, 2, and 3 Kards for Kids Sticky Situations Sleightly Wacky http://www.magicnook.com/magicbob |
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Bill Hegbli Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22797 Posts |
Jack Gwynne vanish is made by Abbott's and requires a special table top. Contact them. You can show the all parts of the box. I also thought the Challenge Vanish used a special stand that allowed the showing of all parts.
They also have the $1000 challenge that has this feature. Suckerette is very old, but all parts cannot be shown freely. It just seems all parts are shown. Email Abbott's, they will be happy to help you with your choice. They also can be called, ask for Greg Brodner the owner. |
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Julie Inner circle 3936 Posts |
For the record: Worth made (makes?)a hybrid version of their Sensational Rabbit Vanish with a Black Art Window in the front of the box so the animal VISIBLY vanishes; then the box is dismantled ala "Suckerette" type gimmick. (Bill, both sides of each piece IS shown when you properly perform Abbott's Suckerette.)
The Worth apparatus I'm referring to here has the added feature of the load piece being able to be secretly removed from the box after the usual moves thereby making for a 100% clean display at the end. The spectators can even go so far as to examine the pieces, if that's your thing...not bad! |
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jimgerrish Inner circle East Orange, NJ 3209 Posts |
The Jack Gwynne Rabbit Vanish Supreme from Abbott that I own includes the special top and a stand which allows it to sit on top of a regular table. If you don't care about the sucker business, the top can be held by an assistant as a tray. The entire thing can be taken apart piece by piece, including the so-called table top, and each can be piece shown freely on all sides.
However, even better than that (if I do say so myself), is my own "Flaming Doves Vanish" that Spellbinder calls "Flight of the Phoenix" in The Wizards' Journal #3. My PVC Pipe version is included at the end of Book 2 of "PVC Pipe and Dollar Store Illusions for the REALLY, REALLY Cheap Illusionist," also on Spellbinder's magic site ( http://www.magicnook.com ) I do the trick with a cubical box which has flashpaper on all sides, so I can just ignite it all at once for a spectacular vanish of one or two doves. The flash box is not necessary, however, and you could substitute a newspaper or tissue paper covered box without the flames. The downside is that if you want one, you have to build one, either of wood and metal or PVC pipes. Construction is rather easy, however, and it's considered a woodshop project that any high school student could do.
Jim Gerrish
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Levent Special user USA 801 Posts |
Dear Jim:
I have always liked the version with the swinging load bag. It couldn’t be used surrounded but I think it if the audience was in front of the performer, it was a lot more deceptive. When I was a kid that method was sold by Mak Magic. I’m on the road right now so I can’t look it up for you (just yet), but I think the Mak Magic trick was called the “Deluxe Take Apart Box”? Incidentally, if I find this method in print I’ll post the name of the book in this forum. I would like to mention that by far the best version of the take apart box that I ever saw was the routine that Richiardi Jr. used to do with the four doves in the cage. That was just fantastic! Best regards, Levent
Levent
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MagicB1S Inner circle Knoxville Tenn. 1039 Posts |
I didn't read all the posts ... so maybe this has been already been said.... I use the one that the chamber is in the lid as well. I grab it from opposite corners and spin the lid completly around.... Practice this you can get the spin down quick enough to hide the Load..... I have been performing this for Many years and Never have been caught...
Or you could use the David Copperfield method .... (slow-Mo Duck) It wouldn't take much to build a table to sit the top on....
"There are Tricks To All Trades.... My Trade is all Tricks"
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
I recently had the pleasure of checking over a rabbit vanish made by Edward M. Massey, named "The Disintegrator Box".
It is somewhat similar to the frame and door lid version, but the lid is only one piece. As the box is being dismantled, the top, which comes off first, is laid flat on the table... ANY TABLE!! The other pieces are then ceremoniously taken apart and laid flat atop this. The vanished rabbit is amazingly gone, and the pieces are laying on the table flat as day old beer! ~michael
~michael baker
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drhackenbush Special user 686 Posts |
Like MagicB1S I also have one the has a spin-able top - it's the Junior Nite Club Dove Vanish I got around 25 years ago from Tannens and it worked well - still looks new after all this time, too. But perhaps a special table might satisfy your requirements better if it gives you free showing of all the pieces.
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