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Lou Hilario
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What kind of holder do you use for the Osaka Bills? Where is the best place to attach the holder in your jacket. For the moment, I use a large paper clip and steal it in my jacket pocket but I want to make a better one like a cloth, elastic or garter to hold it up inside my jacket or under. It should be easily pulled out and held in the right position for production.
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Bill Hegbli
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Lou,

Have you seen this post on the use of Osaka Bill Production by Cyril? It may give you some ideas!

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......0&36

Looks like no one has come up with anything other methods.

You may also find this old string of interest: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/print......16ebdb7b

Try this site for video the old one does not work: http://www.gallo-magic.com/galloframe.html
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Lou, Bill already gave you a link to some comments of mine. I consider the Osaka Bills a brilliant method for performing a Miser’s Dream with paper currency (even play money works, ask Cyril!). I especially like that one can use the fold to produce a final Fan or double fan of bills.

As to holders, I use the square paper clips hooked under the edge of jacket. I actually sew then in place (I’ve marked on the jacket with Black Sharpie where they are to be located so I can take them out when the jacket goes in for cleaning).

I also simply tuck a packet or two under my belt slightly behind my right and left pants pockets. Hooking my thumb over the belt and a slight push (all one movement) delivers them into finger palm. The steal is done with that side turned away from (or in the process of turning away from) the audience).

I have also sewn a hair clip (one of those metal, spring loaded) directly behind the wide part of my lapel (just below the self striking match pulls). I can steal the load while opening my coat to reach inside (or to show the inside).

Paper money is a lot easier to deploy and hide on your body, your props, and your assistant than a load of coins!
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Thanks Harry for the advice, but it looked like Japanese bills Cyril was producing. That is why the man at the table just dropped it on the table, it had no value to him. Good idea not to lose your yen in another country! Smile
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Harry, thanks for sharing your ideas. Can you explain to me how the bills are clipped using the square paper clips? Do you clip it on the sides of the stack of bills or at the farthest end?
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Bill, Cyril printed up "Million Dollar Bills" with advertising on them. It is the kind of the thing that old Fred Kaps used to do for his eleven-dollar trick. It wasn’t real money from anywhere.

Lou, I clip the bills as if they were lying in my pocket with one edge free. That way the thumb just slides into the groove where it needs to be without fumbling. Hand drops on the packet, thumb into the groove, and pulls it away from the clip in one fluid movement (OK, sometimes not so fluid!).

I must admit that some steals are a “one-two” affair. One=steal the packet, two=get it set.

Most of my set-ups for steals are “fiddled” with for days until it is right for me. I guess it is like fitting a holdout. It has to be right for you. I think that you will find the fiddle factor is what will make any of the loads work for you (or not work for that matter!).

I’ve actually put a bit of double back tape on the outer bill of a packet to be stolen and simply stuck the packet to the edge of a table, back of a chair, back of a box, and even on the back of a glass that had a silk inside (stole the bills as I took the silk).

I have found that it is easier to hide and steal a packet of folded bills than a stack (even a tied stack) of coins.

For a Miser’s Dream it does not get any more “Packs Flat!”
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I use my tie, they are arranged so my thumb picks up the load. I set them for both right and left hand. Butterfly clips work well for this. It is an easy steal and it keeps your hands in front of your audience.
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Hey Wizzard, thanks for that! I had never even experiment using my tie. I've been playing with it since I read your post and gave it an outing last night. Worked well (as you already know from your experience!).
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Your're very welcome Mr. Murphy.
If you do not wear a tie, the upper inside of a jacket also works well.
I've also used Osaka Bills as a Six Bill repeat for a number of years. It looks clean and is quite startling for the audience. After discarding three of the bills do a pull away count of the remaining bills. In one continuous motion as the third bill is counted, three more appear, continue your count without a pause. If you do this with both right and left hand it is a real kicker. There are a number of ways to finish, one is to produce a Jumbo bill from the last dollar, a flourish of bills using ten to fifteen bills in each load (ie. one after another) or the one I prefer is the final bill transforms into a "Bill Silk". I just wipe my brow, "all that hard work counting that much money"
Osaka Bills is a great trick that is often overlooked or dismissed as being to hard to handle. Now, If I could just get Doves to fold that flat and small!
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Could someone who owns the osaka bills tell me if the method could be adapted somehow to use chocolate bar wrappers? I'm assuming it has to be paper but maybe I'm wrong? Thanks alot.
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On 2006-03-10 21:52, landon wrote:
Could someone who owns the osaka bills tell me if the method could be adapted somehow to use chocolate bar wrappers? I'm assuming it has to be paper but maybe I'm wrong? Thanks alot.


Sure why not! Get the video and work on it! I have the video and it give the necessary moves to perform with bills. If your wrappers are flat with out candy in them. Why not try it! I don't know why you would want to produce candy bar wrappers, without the candy, but if you have a way to switch for the bars and hand them out, you will have a happy audience. This is a stage type of effect, so doing it close-up would present some added thought.
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Thanks wmhegbli
I guess I'll get the dvd and try it out. The reason I was wondering was I'm working on a Willy Wonka themed manipulation act where part of it is I produce a bunch of chocolate bars looking for a golden ticket. I saw the demo for this and thought it might fit in well.Anyways, thanks again.
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I only paid $25.00 for it. It was well worth the money.
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On 2006-03-17 23:11, landon wrote:
Thanks wmhegbli
I guess I'll get the dvd and try it out. The reason I was wondering was I'm working on a Willy Wonka themed manipulation act where part of it is I produce a bunch of chocolate bars looking for a golden ticket. I saw the demo for this and thought it might fit in well.Anyways, thanks again.


A better way to go with producing Candy bars, would be to put sponge in the wrapper and doing a repeat production of a pop up candy bar. It is an old principle but would work. A candy bar pops up in your hand as you put the next one away. I don't think the wrapper crinkle should interfere with the effect.
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Thanks that's a good idea as well. I'll try both and see what works best.
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Tarbell has a simple bill production method, and as I was looking at my Old Genii Magazines, I discovered the 'Presto Bill Production' by Elio the Magician. It is in Dec. 1993, Vol. 57, #2.

The clip is a standard paper clip soldered to a safety pin.
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I have a problem with Osaka's production method when I push with my thumb bills sometimes tear them in the center... What can I do ?
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On 2006-07-12 14:08, Ricos wrote:
I have a problem with Osaka's production method when I push with my thumb bills sometimes tear them in the center... What can I do ?
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You are pushing in the wrong direction. Study the video some more. Also use real money not fake bills.
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I've used stage money with no problems. Stage money is very cheap and if you tear a bill you've lost nothing.
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Hey all,

I have been thinking about Osaka Bills for a while.
But I have questions...
The site I was looking at says: "You can easily produce up to 15 bills without any extra gimmick."
At a time...correct? And the gimmick? Is that Bulky and does it require extar spending money? (budget)
How long does it take to learn such an effect?
Are fans an option? Is that taught on the DVD?
I have never used Body Loads...is that a problem?
Is this the Only Bill Production on the market?
How hard would it be to adapt this to a close up routine?

Those are my questions for now...

Thanks guys,
Jacob
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