The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » Puzzle me this... » » Magic cube (0 Likes) magicjohn2278 Special user Isle of Man UK 536 Posts  Posted: Mar 14, 2006 07:56 am 0 AT LAST ONE TO BEAT THOSE MATHS EXPERTS! My friend showed me a strange dice with the numbers : 1, 8, 17, 18, 27 and 27 ..on it. When I asked him about his dice and the significance of the numbers he said that the numbers were very special, and it wasn't a dice or a die, but a cube. Do the numbers have any special significance? magicjohn2278 Special user Isle of Man UK 536 Posts  Posted: Mar 14, 2006 10:00 am 0 It would help if I learned to type! The numbers should be: 1, 8, 17, 18, 27 and 28 (It still works the original way but this is better!) magicjohn2278 Special user Isle of Man UK 536 Posts  Posted: Mar 15, 2006 03:48 am 0 ... called in to see my friend again yesterday to find out more about his cube. Didn't get very far, he seemed absorbed in a problem involving four frogs! He muttered something about "adding the digits of the cube.." So I did.... thirty-six? I don't see any significance in this, except that it is the square of the number of sides on his cube.... but this problem has nothing to do with squares?... magicjohn2278 Special user Isle of Man UK 536 Posts  Posted: Mar 16, 2006 11:10 am 0 ...no takers? ....All the clues are in the question....... stanalger Special user St. Louis, MO 996 Posts  Posted: Mar 16, 2006 01:57 pm 0 Add the digits of the cube of each number...and you get the original number again. 1^3=1 8^3=512 and 5 + 1 + 2 = 8 17^3=4913 and 4 + 1 + 9 + 3=17 18^3=5832 and 5+ 8 + 3 + 2 = 18 27^3=19683 and 1 + 9 + 6 + 8 + 3 = 27 28^3=21952 and 2 + 1 + 9 + 5 + 2 = 28 stanalger Special user St. Louis, MO 996 Posts  Posted: Mar 16, 2006 02:03 pm 0 What about 26? Why wasn't it invited to the party? 26^3=17576 and 1+7+5+7+6=26 magicjohn2278 Special user Isle of Man UK 536 Posts  Posted: Mar 16, 2006 02:10 pm 0 See, the clues ARE in the question (somewhere!) But well done Stanalger! I was going to post a note in the answer saying that these were the ONLY six numbers that do this. The puzzle is based on one that I saw in a cheap puzzle book! (A pretty basic "What do the following have in common?")- This is the second piece of mis-information that I have got from there! magicjohn2278 Special user Isle of Man UK 536 Posts  Posted: Mar 16, 2006 02:34 pm 0 .... anyway, who ever heard of a cube with SEVEN sides!? TomasB Inner circle Sweden 1143 Posts  Posted: Mar 16, 2006 03:00 pm 0 I didn't understand the part with "2 + 1 + 9 + 5 + 2 = 28" Someone care to explain? /Tomas magicjohn2278 Special user Isle of Man UK 536 Posts  Posted: Mar 16, 2006 03:55 pm 0 Oops! .... Moral of the story is "Don't rely on cheap puzzle books!" The originl question from the book is: These numbers have a strange property, can you see what it is? 1 8 17 18 27 28 (Hint - think cubes!) The answer was given that these were the ONLY six numbers where the sum of the digits of the square equaled the original number. ... So I was somewhat surprised when Stanalger found another! The numbers are a misprint, and not the first that I have found! I'll check the answers in future! (Actually there is another that I am thinking of posting, but I'm not convinced that the solution given is correct - yet!) stanalger Special user St. Louis, MO 996 Posts  Posted: Mar 16, 2006 04:24 pm 0 Quote:On 2006-03-16 16:00, TomasB wrote: I didn't understand the part with "2 + 1 + 9 + 5 + 2 = 28" Someone care to explain? /Tomas Tomas, The explanation is simple: I was careless. 28= 2 + 19 + 5 + 2 ....but that's not what we're talking about here, is it? Since we're not allowed to "clump" digits, 28 should not be in the list. The complete list of natural numbers whose cubes have a digit-sum equal to the original integer is 1, 8, 17, 18, 26, 27. (Unless you consider 0 to be a natural number.) In bases other than base-ten, the list would of course be different. Looks like John's puzzle book erroneously replaced the 26 with a 28. stanalger Special user St. Louis, MO 996 Posts  Posted: Mar 16, 2006 04:37 pm 0 If "clumping" were allowed, we'd have a much longer list. The longer list begins: 0, 1, 8, 10, 17, 18, 26, 27, 28, 45, 55, 62, 63, 71, 72, 81, 82, 89, 91, 99, 100, 107, 108, 109, 116, 125, 134, 136, 143, 144, 145, 153, 154, 161, 181, 188, 189, 197, 198, 199, 206, 207, 208, 215, 216, 224, 226, 233, 234, 235, 242, 243, 244, 253, 261, 262, 269,... A few examples: 10^3=1000 and 10+0+0=10 99^3=970299 and 9+70+2+9+9 = 99 161^3=4173281 and 4+1+73+2+81 = 161 269^3=19465109 and 194+65+1+0+9=269 The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » Puzzle me this... » » Magic cube (0 Likes)
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