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Patrick Redford
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I was curious to know if anyone has gone this path of purely mentalism and or hypnosis in a restaurant setting.
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I have - not hypnosis, but mentalism. If you can hypnotise somebody who just wants to get on with their meal, while music plays in the background, waiters are dashing around, and there is a constant clattering of plates and cutlery... you're a genius!

The same goes for mentalism. God knows, any mentalist approaching a table while I was enjoying a meal and a chat with friends and loved ones would get short shrift indeed! Magicians can just about get away with it... somebody getting me to draw pictures and sort through zenner cards? Not a chance!
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Mark Strivings does "Walk-around" mentalism. I would look into his books.

I think mentalism could be successful in a restaurant setting, but as Morrison alludes to, it would have to be to the point. I did have one magician at a pizza place open his performance for me with a book test! The effect wasn't bad, but it took sooo long to get to a payoff.

I think that mentalism addressing themes such as love, horoscopes, compatibility, the future, personality readings, etc., would have great appeal. Good luck.
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I think a great mentalism routine to do would be to bend silverware, similar to Banachek's at the end of his PK Silverware video.
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there was a time when I worked 4 restaurants in Houston, my only work at the time and all I performed was close up mentalism. It does work but be aware it must also be such that if the noise level goes up, you can still perform with little or no patter.

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Hi,

I do perform close-up mentalism mostly in restaurants, and based on my personal experience, here are a few tips, for what they're worth:

1. Make sure that you are advertised as a Mentalist, not as a Magician, so that the customers do no bring the kids to see a sponge ball routine. Your introduction and the way the audience will perceive you will be greatly facilitated by a proper advertising.

2. One of the appeals of close-up magic is the intimacy and the interactivity of the performance. To go back to the above mentioned sponge balls routine, the best part for the audience is the part where the balls multiply IN THEIR OWN hands. I consider mentalism as the MOST INTIMATE and INTERACTIVE form of magic; this is why I think that mentalism is very weel suited for close-up work.

3. Mentalism being essentially a propless art, it fits the restaurant setting, where tables are often cluttered. You need quite some room to perform properly a Cups and Balls routine, or a Matrix effect. Reading minds, with a center tear for example, does not require any space at all (except mental space...)

4. Even more so than with general close-up, it is important to start with a piece that will:
a. position you as a mentalist, not a trickster
b. immediately grab their attention
c. be presented in a non-threatening way; because of the intimacy involved, you don't want to be perceived as a threat. Gentleness is always important in magic; it is AN ABSOLUTE MUST in mentalism.

5. Following on Banachek's comment, I think that upscale restaurants, which are generally less noisy, are better suited than some sort of noisy chain of restaurants. Don't ever try mentalism in a place like a Hard-Rock Café, where nobody can hear what you say (assuming that they are interested at all in what you have to say...)

Hope this helps.
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Patrick Redford
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Thank you very much for all of your thoughts.

As for an opening effect to grab attention that is sure fire and establishes you as a mentalist - what would you suggest?
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I'd probably start with something like Max Maven's Contimental. Think of a word and I'll tell you what it is. By using something like this, it doesn't require them to right anything down and you're right into the effect. You give them a limiting choice now (while using Kenton Knepper's deletions technique) and later you can bring out the paper and have them right down ANY word.

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I've used some of the Mark Strivings Walk Around Mentalism with success. It really depends on the restaurant - a quiet place with a low-key atmosphere seems to produce the best effect.
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Hi again,

To introduce yourself and position yourself as a mentalist (vs a trickster), I'd recommend anything that includes a reading (even a short one).

A simple picture duplication will do for example, as long as a reading is delivered BEFORE you duplicate the drawing. Of course, the reading will have to be relevant to the drawing to reproduce.

Or a simple prediction effect, also based on a reading of the subject.

The reading seriously increases the level of intimacy of the performance, and it gives an acceptable(?) explanation to the miracles you are going to perform.

If you check in this forum, you will find many suggestions for specific experiments to carry out along those guidelines.

Hope this helps a bit.
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Patrick Redford
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I wanted to do a follow up and let everyone that I have been rather successful in the restaurant setting! It has been a wonderful experience. I've been working this current restaurant for the past six months doing pure mentalism/hypnosis based effects.
Here is what I've found:
Pseudo-Psychometry routines provide interest among a small or large table. Everyone seems very interested - this goes along the lines of doing a reading, it has high appeal. People enjoy hearing about themselves.
Bending metal, very visual, everyone sees and feels something happening. Also it gets attention from multiple tables, AND leaves something with them to remember you by - besides a business card.
Also mentalism provides a medium in which one is able to use everyone at a table at once. The table size doesn’t matter.


I wanted to thank all of you again for writing in with your ideas. Thank you again!

George Tait
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Eric & Banachek,
Do the same basic rules apply to mentalism in restaurants as close-up, i.e. like havinf an opener, a middle, and a strong closer ?

Also, how do you handle repeat guests ? If you give them a reading one week what happen the next ? Or do you give them partial readings like one week health, the next emphasize money ?

And could you just suggest a few specfic effects that would work well together in sequence ?

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I would have to say no, often you are working while people are talking around at the other tables and sound is hard to hear, so it really depends upon your environment as to whether you can weave a story or not.

I try to do very different seperate effects when I walk around. The only rule I find is to have a quick amazing opener so that they are willing to let you set up other effects you might perform for them. Other than that I mix and match. I usually do a set type of routine (in a certain order) of effects as that makes it easier for me to know what I have done and to work at a smoother pace. If anything I think of it as leaving things out rather than adding things in, if that makes any sense.

One other thing, is if you are working for tips you might want something that is very strong when you close and sort of hints without directly asking for money. For instance, using a one, a five or a ten dollar bill or all three for a routine. They just may hand you one of them when you are done since it is already on the table.

I would be very careful about beinding the silveware that belongs to a restaurant. People will want to keep them and the restaurant may get upset at you destroying thier silverware. Better to carry your own and state "the restaurant gets upset if I bend thiers" if you want at the end, bend on of the restuarants to show you can bend theirs but straighten it and say "sush, just did that for you guys don't tell them" that way they will feel special.

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Mentalism must be held in HIGHER esteem than close up magic and balloon animals...

nuff said...
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Banachek,
Thank you for the feedback, it is very appreciated.
I hesitate to even ask but... Are there specific lessons you learned from your mistakes ? And if you could have a single piece of advice carved in stone, say like Mount Rushmore, what would you pass along to the future of Mentalism performance ?
I may be drifting off topic but I was just thinking how many times it is the mistakes we make that really stick to us and shape what we do.
I can certainly understand if you chose not to make such things public but I also really want to learn.

With utmost respect, - Nicodemus
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I must say I agree with Banachek.
I perform the strongest material I can. Of course I also play each table by ear on terms of what I do when, or if. If that makes sense. Also, when it comes to metal bending, it is best to bring your own and not use the restaurants. One, because people do keep the bent metal. And two, because you are bending it, and the management will look down upon this. I purchase 200 or so pieces at a time.
Advantages to buying your own:
You control how flexible the metal is
You control what it looks like, shiny vs. dull
You can also prepare the metal ahead of time, if so needed.
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I believe Bill Gladwell also does pure mentalism and hypnosis at restaurants so you could emeail him at - Bill@BillGladwell.com
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Why the recent rash of ancient threads being brought up?
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Perhaps because the search engine is being worked on? I noticed this also.

Seriously, it may be to save bandwidth.
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